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Visual Studio doesn't run on Mac OS to make iOS apps, VS Code is still only an editor not an IDE. So Xamarin could be very useful for MS.

• Sir_Substance 11y ago
  I'm not debating that Xamarins products are useful to Microsoft, I'm questioning the assertion that they haven't just consumed a competitor.
  • mynameisvlad 11y ago
    Considering Microsoft has no Mac IDE, I'm not sure how Xamarin could be considered a competitor.
    • Sir_Substance 11y ago
      ...because Visual Studio is a C#/C++ IDE that works on Windows, and Xamarin Studio is also a C#/C++ IDE that works on Windows? Xamarin Studio is a swiss army knife. I don't know about your use case, but I use it under the name Monodevelop on linux (not really sure what that association is) and as Xamarin studio on windows. For my use case, it's a C# and C++ IDE for desktop development, same as visual studio. It's certainly not a MacOS only product, it supports all three platforms including windows.
      • pjmlp 11y ago
        Have you ever used .NET on its own platform? Mono only supports a subset of the whole stack. No sane .NET developer would use Mono on Windows, its purpose is .NET portability to other OSes.
        • Sir_Substance 11y ago
          Xamarin studio can be run against .net on windows, it's not mono specific.
          • pjmlp 11y ago
            Yes, but what is the value of doing that instead of using Visual Studio?!
            • Sir_Substance 11y ago
              Maybe I like it better? WHY ARE WE ARGUING? explodes