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MS already have one; Visual Studio Code. The crazy has been coming a while.

by ealexhudson 11y ago

pmalynin 11y ago
Eh Visual studio code is not an IDE. Last time I used it the C# support was pretty bad.
- PeCaN 11y ago
  It's IDE-ish for some languages. I would call it a full-featured TypeScript IDE (with IntelliSense, syntax-checking, a decent debugger, etc) but not much else.
- pionar 11y ago
  Yeah, it doesn't have debugging (of C# on Mac and Linux). I think the GP is referring to Xamarin Studio, which is an ok IDE, but pales in comparison to VS.
  - deleted 11y ago
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JBReefer 11y ago
Visual Studio Code doesn't do an eighth of what VS 2015 does. VS 2015 on Linux with a full CLR would be huge. Think about the opportunities for existing enterprise programmers, alone.
- ZenoArrow 11y ago
  It would be great to use Visual Studio on other platforms, but it's unlikely to happen any time soon (unless Microsoft have been working on it in secret). Visual Studio is a Win32 application, we haven't even seen a 64-bit version of it yet, I'd expect to see Visual Studio become a 64-bit WPF application before it becomes cross-platform.
  - revelation 11y ago
    Visual Studio already uses WPF where it matters (the actual editor is WPF, I think, among other things). That said, the core and infrastructure and all the stuff that makes it run is still a radioactive COM wasteland, and from experience trying to write an extension once, you can tell..
  - pheoki 11y ago
    It's been WPF since 2010.
giancarlostoro 11y ago
It's a text editor though and doesn't focus on being a full featured IDE. I think a Cross Platform text editor is definitely a must have regardless though. I just wish it had debugging (or at least just execution) natively without me having to find a plugin, sort of how Geany runs / compiles anything I throw at it without much (if ever) effort.
- carussell 11y ago
  It does have built-in debugging, although it might not support the targets you're working with. However, it is still less than a year old + only at version 0.10.x...
revelation 11y ago
Visual Studio Code is very different from Visual Studio and was made exclusively to capture the unwashed masses of web developers that have been lead to believe by false prophets that they shall exclusively use 30 year old editors running in terminal emulators, themselves mimicking 40 year old interfaces, to accomplish their work. (Some sarcasm intended)
- mixedCase 11y ago
  The first web devs you're talking about are already using Atom and Sublime Text. The other devs are still using a better terminal editor. As a personal anecdote, I did give VSC a try when I had to write some TypeScript. Installed a couple of plugins for Neovim and I was both at home (which means, more productive) and still had the same functionality I used in VSC.

MS already have one; Visual Studio Code. The crazy has been coming a while.

pmalynin 11y ago

Eh Visual studio code is not an IDE. Last time I used it the C# support was pretty bad.

PeCaN 11y ago
It's IDE-ish for some languages. I would call it a full-featured TypeScript IDE (with IntelliSense, syntax-checking, a decent debugger, etc) but not much else.
pionar 11y ago
Yeah, it doesn't have debugging (of C# on Mac and Linux). I think the GP is referring to Xamarin Studio, which is an ok IDE, but pales in comparison to VS.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]

JBReefer 11y ago

Visual Studio Code doesn't do an eighth of what VS 2015 does. VS 2015 on Linux with a full CLR would be huge. Think about the opportunities for existing enterprise programmers, alone.

ZenoArrow 11y ago
It would be great to use Visual Studio on other platforms, but it's unlikely to happen any time soon (unless Microsoft have been working on it in secret). Visual Studio is a Win32 application, we haven't even seen a 64-bit version of it yet, I'd expect to see Visual Studio become a 64-bit WPF application before it becomes cross-platform.
- revelation 11y ago
  Visual Studio already uses WPF where it matters (the actual editor is WPF, I think, among other things). That said, the core and infrastructure and all the stuff that makes it run is still a radioactive COM wasteland, and from experience trying to write an extension once, you can tell..
- pheoki 11y ago
  It's been WPF since 2010.

giancarlostoro 11y ago

It's a text editor though and doesn't focus on being a full featured IDE. I think a Cross Platform text editor is definitely a must have regardless though. I just wish it had debugging (or at least just execution) natively without me having to find a plugin, sort of how Geany runs / compiles anything I throw at it without much (if ever) effort.

carussell 11y ago
It does have built-in debugging, although it might not support the targets you're working with. However, it is still less than a year old + only at version 0.10.x...

revelation 11y ago

Visual Studio Code is very different from Visual Studio and was made exclusively to capture the unwashed masses of web developers that have been lead to believe by false prophets that they shall exclusively use 30 year old editors running in terminal emulators, themselves mimicking 40 year old interfaces, to accomplish their work. (Some sarcasm intended)

mixedCase 11y ago
The first web devs you're talking about are already using Atom and Sublime Text. The other devs are still using a better terminal editor. As a personal anecdote, I did give VSC a try when I had to write some TypeScript. Installed a couple of plugins for Neovim and I was both at home (which means, more productive) and still had the same functionality I used in VSC.