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Windows 8 came preinstalled with the computer and then just updated to Windows 10 from it. If the main upgrade method is broken, I'm not sure what to believe an

Windows 8 came preinstalled with the computer and then just updated to Windows 10 from it. If the main upgrade method is broken, I'm not sure what to believe anymore...

Klathmon 11y ago
Don't be disingenuous. There isn't a consumer OS out there that can do 100% smooth seamless upgrades between major versions. OSX, iOS, Android, Linux, and Windows all have pretty big issues when doing upgrades.
- matzipan 11y ago
  I haven't really had problems with OS X. There's the occasional odd package under Linux which remains installed and you need to manually remove it, but nothing unfixable. But I guess that depends more on the underlying OS structure. I'm looking forward to see more widespread usage of Snappy Ubuntu. Since that is the main way people migrate to Windows 10, I would've expected them to be more careful with it.
  - Klathmon 11y ago
    Many linux systems don't even support in-place upgrades between major versions. And I don't think i've ever had one work where nothing broke. RHEL only started supporting it for the transition between 6 and 7 on a like 3 architectures on one edition. And OSX has it's share of issues. For me personally, updating to El Capitan was the worst upgrade processes i've done in recent memory. From not running the installer but giving no issues, to not finding the harddrive during the install process, to corrupting the current install of yosemite, to bluetooth being broken after the upgrade, and i can't get wifi speeds over 1mbps. A clean install solved all of that, but that's pretty normal with every single OS i've ever encountered. It's not a question of being "more careful", it's that writing software in a way that it can be in-place upgraded to something you don't know will exist at the time is EXTREMELY HARD! I really feel it's one of the big "unsolved problems" in computer science and i don't see it being solved any time soon.
douche 11y ago
If Windows 8 came preinstalled, and you didn't wipe it and install from a clean ISO yourself, then you've got more crapware installed than you can shake a stick at, with hooks riddled all through your system. Doubtless, some of that vendor-supplied junkware is incompatible with Windows 10.

Windows 8 came preinstalled with the computer and then just updated to Windows 10 from it. If the main upgrade method is broken, I'm not sure what to believe anymore...

Klathmon 11y ago

Don't be disingenuous. There isn't a consumer OS out there that can do 100% smooth seamless upgrades between major versions. OSX, iOS, Android, Linux, and Windows all have pretty big issues when doing upgrades.

matzipan 11y ago
I haven't really had problems with OS X. There's the occasional odd package under Linux which remains installed and you need to manually remove it, but nothing unfixable. But I guess that depends more on the underlying OS structure. I'm looking forward to see more widespread usage of Snappy Ubuntu. Since that is the main way people migrate to Windows 10, I would've expected them to be more careful with it.
- Klathmon 11y ago
  Many linux systems don't even support in-place upgrades between major versions. And I don't think i've ever had one work where nothing broke. RHEL only started supporting it for the transition between 6 and 7 on a like 3 architectures on one edition. And OSX has it's share of issues. For me personally, updating to El Capitan was the worst upgrade processes i've done in recent memory. From not running the installer but giving no issues, to not finding the harddrive during the install process, to corrupting the current install of yosemite, to bluetooth being broken after the upgrade, and i can't get wifi speeds over 1mbps. A clean install solved all of that, but that's pretty normal with every single OS i've ever encountered. It's not a question of being "more careful", it's that writing software in a way that it can be in-place upgraded to something you don't know will exist at the time is EXTREMELY HARD! I really feel it's one of the big "unsolved problems" in computer science and i don't see it being solved any time soon.

douche 11y ago

If Windows 8 came preinstalled, and you didn't wipe it and install from a clean ISO yourself, then you've got more crapware installed than you can shake a stick at, with hooks riddled all through your system. Doubtless, some of that vendor-supplied junkware is incompatible with Windows 10.