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Has anyone actually check into if those settings could actually prevent Tesla from connecting to your car? I'm not concerned about that end API, I am concerned
by gravypod 11y ago
Has anyone actually check into if those settings could actually prevent Tesla from connecting to your car?
I'm not concerned about that end API, I am concerned about the company being able to manipulate my car without my knowledge or permission.
- mikeash 11y agoI don't know how one really could check that. At some point you have to trust the manufacturer to do what they say they do. Or don't, but in that case you can't really buy any car, since even if they don't advertise remote access, they could be lying.
- gravypod 11y agoI don't think I'll ever trust the manufacturer. I always need to check for myself. There is a lot of cool stuff I have learned over the years about cars as a result.
- mikeash 11y agoWill you tear apart every future car looking for a hidden cellular module?
- teacup50 11y agoThat's a lot easier than tearing apart every piece of software in a car to look for security vulnerabilities, intentional backdoors, and private information leaks.
- mikeash 11y agoYep, but still more effort than I've heard anyone going through (besides spy agencies and the like, anyway).
- marssaxman 11y agoI'm doing OK so far just buying older cars that were never saddled with any such crap, but I imagine that when enough time has gone by that I seriously have to consider a vehicle built that comes ready-to-exploit from the factory, enough hobbyists will have figured out how it's done that ripping out the radio won't be such a challenge.
- toomuchtodo 11y agoOr the kind of people who care of such things will be long gone. Or it'll be illegal.
- codeulike 11y agoTesla cars connect to the net via a standard SIM card arrangement. So there is a SIM card somewhere inside the dash that you could find and pop out if you really wanted to be sure. But then its goodbye autopilot, etc.
- mikeash 11y agoAutopilot will still work fine. It may receive periodic data updates, but it doesn't require a connection to operate. All you'd lose would be remote access through the app, further software updates, and any remote diagnostics Tesla might be able to do if you have a problem, assuming you also kept the car off WiFi.
- gravypod 11y agoThat to me seems like the best option, considering a Tesla owner could then put the car back in when they need more assistance with the car or just, as you said, connect it to WiFi. That seems like an agreeable compromise in my book, it requires user connect for Tesla access.