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Ask yourself, when was the last time you heard a politician or business leader mention the problems of European American "white" communities? When was the last

Ask yourself, when was the last time you heard a politician or business leader mention the problems of European American "white" communities? When was the last time you watched a story on Television about the European American poverty and economic dislocation in the US? When was the last time the President or an elected official campaigning for European American Scholarships, loan assistance programs or European American organizations? They use to call the middle class the silent majority. There was an unspoken agreement between the Politicians the Media and the Middle Class that everyone was working for the good of the people, all the people including European Americans. But I think the last 15 years have shown conclusively in the eyes of the silent majority that agreement has been torn up and thrown in the bin. And the Media the Politicians and there Billionaire pay masters have turned quite dramatically against the good of the European Americans working and middle classes. So they will not be silent anymore. They will make there demands and organise and vote according to who best serves there interests. There is no amount of Media spinning demonization and appeals to white guilt that is going to put European Americans back in there nice little box. The Billionaires killed that golden goose that was the silent majority now they will have to deal with the consequences.

mc32 11y ago
The problem I see is that "progressive" politicians treat all people of euro ancestry as one homogenous lump. As if they are all rich, wealthy, advantaged and descendants of colonizers. So when you lump the daughters and sons of Ukrainian immigrants who are working to achieve middle class with wealthy people as well as those whose history is tainted with injustice, you create a problem.
- generic_user 11y ago
  I completely agree on that point. I find it quite insulting and also the term 'white' is totally unacceptable to me. Which is why I use and encourage people to use European American. That term at least has a definitive connection with our home countries and the cultures of European diaspora. The homogenization of all Europeans into on mass of culture-less 'white people' serves a political purpose. It polarizes the entire electorate into easily manipulated identity blocks based on race. They create a narrative that the amorphous 'white people' has this or that evil intentions and serves as a bogyman to scare other groups. Polarization keeps people voting in very narrow dependable voter blocks based on a dependable list of identity block issues. The way forward is to assert European American policy issues into national policy debates. And take the magic wand of 'white people' away from the progressives and the republicans. Neither of which have any intention of advocating policy on the behalf of European diaspora. That is what the media and the establishment fear most of all. European Americans asserting there rights as a coalition demanding political representation. Once that happens they can no longer hide behind 'white people' while simultaneously demonizeing us as a scapegoat. There will be a clear demarcation line between the policy objectives of the super wealth who control the economy and Political parties and the 99% of European diaspora who have legitimate political, economic and social demands that have to be taken into account.
  - mc32 11y ago
    My fear is that these politics will lead to the sorts of issues we see in other places where there are large demographics but no one is a majority. Think about the politics of India and how disastrous that would be for us as a country. One way forward would be to disengage in divide and conquer politics and engage instead in actually addressing pressing issues. Poverty, violence, injustice, without tingeing it with race or class but rather as societal problems that we as a whole society must address rather than it's a [some group's] problem. For example the unequal gender pay issue is not best addressed as a problem caused by males but rather as a social problem which must be addressed by all to get to a place on average where all get equivalent pay. That is addition rather than subtraction.
    - generic_user 11y ago
      Its a nice thought but the problem is that divide and conquer works. Political parties are not going to give up there biggest tool in the quest for power and influence. I agree that it will be disastrous for the united states but I see no will to change course in politics or social trends. In fact it seems the mainstream media is desperate to instigate some large scale social conflicts in the uS.
cvwright 11y ago
> Ask yourself, when was the last time you heard a politician or business leader mention the problems of European American "white" communities? Hillary Clinton, in one of the early Democratic primary debates. It was an amazing display of skill. Clinton was asked by a black member of the audience how she, as a white woman president, would improve the lives of black Americans. She somehow turned the question around, and by the end of her answer, she was talking about a recent study on the declining health of poor whites and how she would help them. And the audience actually applauded! Nobody there -- either black or white -- seemed to notice how artfully she dodged the question and presented one of her limitations as an apparent strength. I was floored.
- generic_user 11y ago
  It just goes to show that they will play any side of the fence in order to de-legitimize organic attempt at self representation as selfish, frivolous and not needed. Its along the lines of, oh you think your poor? Well, theses people over here are much poorer then you. You should not complain and be happy with what you have because it can be much worse!

mc32 11y ago

The problem I see is that "progressive" politicians treat all people of euro ancestry as one homogenous lump. As if they are all rich, wealthy, advantaged and descendants of colonizers. So when you lump the daughters and sons of Ukrainian immigrants who are working to achieve middle class with wealthy people as well as those whose history is tainted with injustice, you create a problem.

generic_user 11y ago
I completely agree on that point. I find it quite insulting and also the term 'white' is totally unacceptable to me. Which is why I use and encourage people to use European American. That term at least has a definitive connection with our home countries and the cultures of European diaspora. The homogenization of all Europeans into on mass of culture-less 'white people' serves a political purpose. It polarizes the entire electorate into easily manipulated identity blocks based on race. They create a narrative that the amorphous 'white people' has this or that evil intentions and serves as a bogyman to scare other groups. Polarization keeps people voting in very narrow dependable voter blocks based on a dependable list of identity block issues. The way forward is to assert European American policy issues into national policy debates. And take the magic wand of 'white people' away from the progressives and the republicans. Neither of which have any intention of advocating policy on the behalf of European diaspora. That is what the media and the establishment fear most of all. European Americans asserting there rights as a coalition demanding political representation. Once that happens they can no longer hide behind 'white people' while simultaneously demonizeing us as a scapegoat. There will be a clear demarcation line between the policy objectives of the super wealth who control the economy and Political parties and the 99% of European diaspora who have legitimate political, economic and social demands that have to be taken into account.
- mc32 11y ago
  My fear is that these politics will lead to the sorts of issues we see in other places where there are large demographics but no one is a majority. Think about the politics of India and how disastrous that would be for us as a country. One way forward would be to disengage in divide and conquer politics and engage instead in actually addressing pressing issues. Poverty, violence, injustice, without tingeing it with race or class but rather as societal problems that we as a whole society must address rather than it's a [some group's] problem. For example the unequal gender pay issue is not best addressed as a problem caused by males but rather as a social problem which must be addressed by all to get to a place on average where all get equivalent pay. That is addition rather than subtraction.
  - generic_user 11y ago
    Its a nice thought but the problem is that divide and conquer works. Political parties are not going to give up there biggest tool in the quest for power and influence. I agree that it will be disastrous for the united states but I see no will to change course in politics or social trends. In fact it seems the mainstream media is desperate to instigate some large scale social conflicts in the uS.

cvwright 11y ago

> Ask yourself, when was the last time you heard a politician or business leader mention the problems of European American "white" communities? Hillary Clinton, in one of the early Democratic primary debates. It was an amazing display of skill. Clinton was asked by a black member of the audience how she, as a white woman president, would improve the lives of black Americans. She somehow turned the question around, and by the end of her answer, she was talking about a recent study on the declining health of poor whites and how she would help them. And the audience actually applauded! Nobody there -- either black or white -- seemed to notice how artfully she dodged the question and presented one of her limitations as an apparent strength. I was floored.

generic_user 11y ago
It just goes to show that they will play any side of the fence in order to de-legitimize organic attempt at self representation as selfish, frivolous and not needed. Its along the lines of, oh you think your poor? Well, theses people over here are much poorer then you. You should not complain and be happy with what you have because it can be much worse!