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Except the frequency there is compared to other animals not humans. The bonobo example is a little overplayed. I don't consider 'sexually greeting' each other b

Except the frequency there is compared to other animals not humans. The bonobo example is a little overplayed. I don't consider 'sexually greeting' each other by grabbing assess to be on the same page as sex. That's not sex. You can't impregnate a female by grabbing. Also, having lots of sex in a 10 day period is impressive, but humans don't have a 10 day heat period. They're in heat all the time. Its not really comparable. I think we can split hairs all day, but I don't think its controversial to say that animal mating and human mating evolved in very different ways. Obviously our closest relatives in the animal kingdom will be most like us, but even they have heat periods.

acqq 11y ago
> The bonobo example is a little overplayed. No: > I don't consider 'sexually greeting' each other by grabbing assess to be on the same page as sex. They actually do greetings by involving their reproduction organs. "Genito-genital rubbing of bonobo females" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeAJUxJ7gg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeAJUxJ7gg > but humans don't have a 10 day heat period. They're in heat all the time. Bonobos and chimps don't have too. They do make sex all the time. Google "concealed ovulation." That's the evolved mechanism where female never signals when it actually ovulates. And it's present by bonobos.
jMyles 11y ago
> That's not sex. You can't impregnate a female by grabbing. The whole point here is that sex != reproduction. IE social sex constructs, homosexuality, conflict resolution through sex, and just recreation via sex. > Also, having lots of sex in a 10 day period is impressive, but humans don't have a 10 day heat period. They're in heat all the time. Its not really comparable. It's true that humans are available for sex all the time - a claim no other mammal can make as I understand it - but chimps and bonobos are also available for sex far more often than they are in a viable reproductive state. Sexual swelling in bonobos, for example, is almost consistent throughout the cycle.

acqq 11y ago

> The bonobo example is a little overplayed. No: > I don't consider 'sexually greeting' each other by grabbing assess to be on the same page as sex. They actually do greetings by involving their reproduction organs. "Genito-genital rubbing of bonobo females" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeAJUxJ7gg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeAJUxJ7gg > but humans don't have a 10 day heat period. They're in heat all the time. Bonobos and chimps don't have too. They do make sex all the time. Google "concealed ovulation." That's the evolved mechanism where female never signals when it actually ovulates. And it's present by bonobos.

jMyles 11y ago

> That's not sex. You can't impregnate a female by grabbing. The whole point here is that sex != reproduction. IE social sex constructs, homosexuality, conflict resolution through sex, and just recreation via sex. > Also, having lots of sex in a 10 day period is impressive, but humans don't have a 10 day heat period. They're in heat all the time. Its not really comparable. It's true that humans are available for sex all the time - a claim no other mammal can make as I understand it - but chimps and bonobos are also available for sex far more often than they are in a viable reproductive state. Sexual swelling in bonobos, for example, is almost consistent throughout the cycle.