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So does every leaf come with life-time connection to the internet over cellular? Like my Kindle keyboard 3G?

by jordache 11y ago

gravypod 11y ago
The keyboard comes with free 3G? I'd love to see if someone could pull that out and do something cool with it.
- jordache 11y ago
  yep.. was my way of getting on facebook while traveling in china.
- mavhc 11y ago
  Someone published how to use it as a proxy, and then amazon restricted its usage massively, obviously. Sigh. Also each newer kindle had a greater price difference between wifi and 3g, and more restrictions
  - gravypod 11y ago
    Do the really old ones still work with little restrictions?
    - mavhc 11y ago
      My Kindle 3 Keyboard 3G just has the 50MB/month limit, but everywhere has wifi now anyway, so I rarely use it.
dangrossman 11y ago
Yes, every Leaf has a built-in 2G modem that connects to AT&T to facilitate this service, and they don't charge for it. It's only active in the car if you've signed up for a CarWings/NissanConnectEV account on the Nissan Owners portal (which requires verifying ownership of the car with Nissan) and valid login credentials have been entered through the car's touchscreen infotainment system. That's why the article says people who haven't signed up, or who disable their account, aren't at risk.
akerro 11y ago
Yes, a lot of cars have 'sim' card built-in Ford uses this and they're not hiding the fact[1], any car that can autoupdate itself has sim card that connects to remote servers and can be controlled, afaik it's encryption and security is worse than 2G. http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1?IR=T
pjc50 11y ago
All new cars sold in the EU will soon be required by law to have a cellular connection capable of "eCall" (reporting the car's location in the event of a crash). Once there's a cellular system in there, it's 'free' for the manufacturer to add any other features they like and are willing to pay for the SIM for. Low volume "IoT" SIMs are a few euros per year.
outworlder 11y ago
The "S" models don't. Which makes me glad that I didn't pay extra for that.

So does every leaf come with life-time connection to the internet over cellular? Like my Kindle keyboard 3G?

gravypod 11y ago

The keyboard comes with free 3G? I'd love to see if someone could pull that out and do something cool with it.

jordache 11y ago
yep.. was my way of getting on facebook while traveling in china.
mavhc 11y ago
Someone published how to use it as a proxy, and then amazon restricted its usage massively, obviously. Sigh. Also each newer kindle had a greater price difference between wifi and 3g, and more restrictions
- gravypod 11y ago
  Do the really old ones still work with little restrictions?
  - mavhc 11y ago
    My Kindle 3 Keyboard 3G just has the 50MB/month limit, but everywhere has wifi now anyway, so I rarely use it.

dangrossman 11y ago

Yes, every Leaf has a built-in 2G modem that connects to AT&T to facilitate this service, and they don't charge for it. It's only active in the car if you've signed up for a CarWings/NissanConnectEV account on the Nissan Owners portal (which requires verifying ownership of the car with Nissan) and valid login credentials have been entered through the car's touchscreen infotainment system. That's why the article says people who haven't signed up, or who disable their account, aren't at risk.

akerro 11y ago

Yes, a lot of cars have 'sim' card built-in Ford uses this and they're not hiding the fact[1], any car that can autoupdate itself has sim card that connects to remote servers and can be controlled, afaik it's encryption and security is worse than 2G. http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1?IR=T

pjc50 11y ago

All new cars sold in the EU will soon be required by law to have a cellular connection capable of "eCall" (reporting the car's location in the event of a crash). Once there's a cellular system in there, it's 'free' for the manufacturer to add any other features they like and are willing to pay for the SIM for. Low volume "IoT" SIMs are a few euros per year.

outworlder 11y ago

The "S" models don't. Which makes me glad that I didn't pay extra for that.