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I spent a good amount of time a few years ago exploring the DMT realm, and its totally, completely and inexplicably mysterious. Either consciousness is a non-lo

by cnp 11y ago

I spent a good amount of time a few years ago exploring the DMT realm, and its totally, completely and inexplicably mysterious. Either consciousness is a non-local phenomena and when you smoke it you end up in some kind of parallel dimension or for whatever crazy reason evolution decided it was important to incorporate these alien beings into our subconscious mind. Those with a rigid reductionist perspective would do well to explore it a bit. IMO there's nothing more mind expanding and question inducing than DMT, and it just begs out to science: "STUDY ME!"

daodedickinson 11y ago
"Evolution" has "decided" to "incorporate" plenty of unimportant things, or else everything is equally important, and thus nothing is important.
callesgg 11y ago
I have not tried DMT and to be honest i do not intend to, based on what i have read. So my insights might not be so cleaver as i think. But here is an article that makes sense to me. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201408/dmt-gateway-reality-fantasy-or-what https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/2... Our brains are really not that good at letting us know what is going on in our lives. Our brains are however really good when it comes to making us believe that we know what is going on in or lives. Just look at this list for some examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
taternuts 11y ago
I'm both fascinated and very scared of DMT. As I get older and my want to experiment with unfamiliar substances wanes, I'm pretty confident that I'll probably never try DMT, but I wish I had when I was younger and more brash. I've had friends who have taken too much and went down the DMT-hole, and their description of it (as best they can recollect anyways) is absolutely terrifying. One example was a friend who felt he spent years in a completely different world, with completely different laws of physics - he had to literally give up his idea of how the world worked in order to embrace what he thought at the time was his new world/being. Once he accepted it, apparently he started to come out of it.
- cnp 11y ago
  Yeah, I can very much sympathize with your friend. One thing I've learned is that setting an intention is important, and not being reckless with it is important too. There have been a few time where I've come back home after a night out and dove right in with half drunken bravery, and yes infinite thought loops are a thing! There was one time where I quite literally thought I had died and landed in hell and in that moment of time an indescribable suffering was transmitted through my being via some kind of demon which left me in tears for about a half of an hour afterwards. But lest I drive the curious away, whenever I have gone into it with respect I've had experiences that were deeply enlightening and, while always weird, seemingly benign.
grkvlt 11y ago
Occams razor suggests the latter, i.e. it's all in your mind. Unless you can get one of the beings to factor some huge number for you, of course. - http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/data/articles/paralleldmt.pdf http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/data/articles/paralleldmt.pdf - http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/04/21/universal-love-said-the-cactus-person/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/04/21/universal-love-said-the...
- cnp 11y ago
  People always use the large number factor as an argument which pretty much assumes we and they are on similar wavelengths, so to speak. Its a strawman.

by cnp 11y ago

daodedickinson 11y ago

"Evolution" has "decided" to "incorporate" plenty of unimportant things, or else everything is equally important, and thus nothing is important.

callesgg 11y ago

I have not tried DMT and to be honest i do not intend to, based on what i have read. So my insights might not be so cleaver as i think. But here is an article that makes sense to me. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201408/dmt-gateway-reality-fantasy-or-what https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/2... Our brains are really not that good at letting us know what is going on in our lives. Our brains are however really good when it comes to making us believe that we know what is going on in or lives. Just look at this list for some examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

taternuts 11y ago

I'm both fascinated and very scared of DMT. As I get older and my want to experiment with unfamiliar substances wanes, I'm pretty confident that I'll probably never try DMT, but I wish I had when I was younger and more brash. I've had friends who have taken too much and went down the DMT-hole, and their description of it (as best they can recollect anyways) is absolutely terrifying. One example was a friend who felt he spent years in a completely different world, with completely different laws of physics - he had to literally give up his idea of how the world worked in order to embrace what he thought at the time was his new world/being. Once he accepted it, apparently he started to come out of it.

cnp 11y ago
Yeah, I can very much sympathize with your friend. One thing I've learned is that setting an intention is important, and not being reckless with it is important too. There have been a few time where I've come back home after a night out and dove right in with half drunken bravery, and yes infinite thought loops are a thing! There was one time where I quite literally thought I had died and landed in hell and in that moment of time an indescribable suffering was transmitted through my being via some kind of demon which left me in tears for about a half of an hour afterwards. But lest I drive the curious away, whenever I have gone into it with respect I've had experiences that were deeply enlightening and, while always weird, seemingly benign.

grkvlt 11y ago

Occams razor suggests the latter, i.e. it's all in your mind. Unless you can get one of the beings to factor some huge number for you, of course. - http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/data/articles/paralleldmt.pdf http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/data/articles/paralleldmt.pdf - http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/04/21/universal-love-said-the-cactus-person/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/04/21/universal-love-said-the...

cnp 11y ago
People always use the large number factor as an argument which pretty much assumes we and they are on similar wavelengths, so to speak. Its a strawman.