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FYI it's built using Swift and ReactiveCocoa. They put up all the dependencies licenses in Settings so I made a list of the packages they use https://gist.githu

by ropiku 11y ago

FYI it's built using Swift and ReactiveCocoa. They put up all the dependencies licenses in Settings so I made a list of the packages they use https://gist.github.com/ropiku/b259f35060a40eab1597 https://gist.github.com/ropiku/b259f35060a40eab1597.

bsaul 11y ago
it's the second time this week i hear about reactive cocoa.I'm starting to hate uikit with a passion, but what's so special about it ?
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- JSoto 11y ago
  iOS engineer who worked on the Fabric app here :) I gave a talk about this topic at a Swift conference last year, if you wanna check that out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent6LJDIB3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent6LJDIB3I
  - st3v3r 11y ago
    Maybe you can answer who was the person that decided that your library was so special that you have to use a damn application to add it to a project, rather than use the same exact procedures to add a library that every other library uses? No, I don't want to use your application to add the library, and no, I don't want to have to go through the onboarding every single time I need to add it or update it.
    - bsaul 11y ago
      i was really hesitant when i saw how fabric is supposed to be installed, using a mac app, but i've got to admit that it's a really pleasant experience so far.
  - bsaul 11y ago
    hi, thanks for sharing. one question though : to me, the hardest and most convoluted api in cocoa isn't related to model handling but to the view : doing simple things like a tableview reload immediately followed by a scroll, or animation composition when updating data always is a problem because the way uikit elements work internaly is quite opaque ( and the fact that there are three orthogonal api to position a view don't help). So the fact that reactive cocoa tries to hide the notion of state transition makes me wonder how you can then deal with UIKit views animations api ( collection flow animations or tableview begin updates, no to mention view controllers interactive transitions). I've wondered if using a future based api for view animations wouldn't be a solution..
- Arcanum-XIII 11y ago
  I use the ObjC ReactiveCocoa in a big project and, albeit the idea behind it is very nice the lack of debug integration is hard. No the framework issue - but lldb is not good at this kind of tracing... Even, if, to be honest the way RAC is integrated into the app is maybe the issue. The story is a bit better on Swift, because some part of the reactive ideas are "built in"(mapping, filtering), but it still can be hard to understand the flow of the app.

by ropiku 11y ago

bsaul 11y ago

it's the second time this week i hear about reactive cocoa.I'm starting to hate uikit with a passion, but what's so special about it ?

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JSoto 11y ago
iOS engineer who worked on the Fabric app here :) I gave a talk about this topic at a Swift conference last year, if you wanna check that out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent6LJDIB3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent6LJDIB3I
- st3v3r 11y ago
  Maybe you can answer who was the person that decided that your library was so special that you have to use a damn application to add it to a project, rather than use the same exact procedures to add a library that every other library uses? No, I don't want to use your application to add the library, and no, I don't want to have to go through the onboarding every single time I need to add it or update it.
  - bsaul 11y ago
    i was really hesitant when i saw how fabric is supposed to be installed, using a mac app, but i've got to admit that it's a really pleasant experience so far.
- bsaul 11y ago
  hi, thanks for sharing. one question though : to me, the hardest and most convoluted api in cocoa isn't related to model handling but to the view : doing simple things like a tableview reload immediately followed by a scroll, or animation composition when updating data always is a problem because the way uikit elements work internaly is quite opaque ( and the fact that there are three orthogonal api to position a view don't help). So the fact that reactive cocoa tries to hide the notion of state transition makes me wonder how you can then deal with UIKit views animations api ( collection flow animations or tableview begin updates, no to mention view controllers interactive transitions). I've wondered if using a future based api for view animations wouldn't be a solution..
Arcanum-XIII 11y ago
I use the ObjC ReactiveCocoa in a big project and, albeit the idea behind it is very nice the lack of debug integration is hard. No the framework issue - but lldb is not good at this kind of tracing... Even, if, to be honest the way RAC is integrated into the app is maybe the issue. The story is a bit better on Swift, because some part of the reactive ideas are "built in"(mapping, filtering), but it still can be hard to understand the flow of the app.