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> you can't have a surveillance camera pointed to public space Interesting so a business for example can't have a camera monitoring outside (or inside) the pl

by gist 11y ago

> you can't have a surveillance camera pointed to public space Interesting so a business for example can't have a camera monitoring outside (or inside) the place of business for security purposes? Can they apply for an exemption and is it normally granted?

germanier 11y ago
They can monitor their inside place (if there is a clear sign there) and and also their door from the outside (as long as the public street isn't filmed). Videos have to be deleted quickly and can only be used for theft prevention purposes. Exemptions can't be granted by the government and courts will usually decide against business owners that violate those rules.
detaro 11y ago
You can monitor your own property if you inform properly (post notices, renters have to agree, ...) > Can they apply for an exemption and is it normally granted? No. If your camera monitors public space (streets, sidewalk, ...) it either has to be so far in the distance that it can't identify people or cars, or you have to block these parts of the image (either physically, or by blanking those parts of the signal before they are recorded. Many cameras allow to put black boxes over parts of the image in firmware)
- germanier 11y ago
  > You can monitor your own property if you inform properly Even that is restricted. For example it is not allowed to video monitor your employees in almost all cases. To use video surveillance you have to have a legitimate reason and even then the rights of you and the ones being filmed need to be carefully balanced.
  - detaro 11y ago
    true, i was maybe generalizing a bit to much.
Xylakant 11y ago
Afaik inside is possible but requires signs (and probably you're subject to checks), outside no. You can't even have empty camera bodies pointing to the street.
DanBC 11y ago
Inside a business is not a "public place", it is a place to which the public have access. Outside a business is similar, unless the camera is outside and pointing to the road or pavement. In England if you have CCTV you're expected to register with the Information Commissioner. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/cctv/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protectio... https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ Even so, we're heavily surveilled in the UK.
- Xylakant 11y ago
  The german BDSG references "publicly accessible areas", so it still applies in a shop. http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bdsg/englisch_bdsg.html#p0153 http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bdsg/englisch_bds... (supercool, for that occasion I figured out that there's an official english translation, didn't know that)

by gist 11y ago

germanier 11y ago

They can monitor their inside place (if there is a clear sign there) and and also their door from the outside (as long as the public street isn't filmed). Videos have to be deleted quickly and can only be used for theft prevention purposes. Exemptions can't be granted by the government and courts will usually decide against business owners that violate those rules.

detaro 11y ago

You can monitor your own property if you inform properly (post notices, renters have to agree, ...) > Can they apply for an exemption and is it normally granted? No. If your camera monitors public space (streets, sidewalk, ...) it either has to be so far in the distance that it can't identify people or cars, or you have to block these parts of the image (either physically, or by blanking those parts of the signal before they are recorded. Many cameras allow to put black boxes over parts of the image in firmware)

germanier 11y ago
> You can monitor your own property if you inform properly Even that is restricted. For example it is not allowed to video monitor your employees in almost all cases. To use video surveillance you have to have a legitimate reason and even then the rights of you and the ones being filmed need to be carefully balanced.
- detaro 11y ago
  true, i was maybe generalizing a bit to much.

Xylakant 11y ago

Afaik inside is possible but requires signs (and probably you're subject to checks), outside no. You can't even have empty camera bodies pointing to the street.

DanBC 11y ago

Inside a business is not a "public place", it is a place to which the public have access. Outside a business is similar, unless the camera is outside and pointing to the road or pavement. In England if you have CCTV you're expected to register with the Information Commissioner. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/cctv/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protectio... https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ Even so, we're heavily surveilled in the UK.

Xylakant 11y ago
The german BDSG references "publicly accessible areas", so it still applies in a shop. http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bdsg/englisch_bdsg.html#p0153 http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bdsg/englisch_bds... (supercool, for that occasion I figured out that there's an official english translation, didn't know that)