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Why not just help fix Signal?

• ex3ndr 11y ago
  We are much more powerful team for UX/performance. We build entire platform from scratch. Signal uses simplest existing technologies on top of only pubsub. We are just working very differently. Making correct multidevice/federation/apps/etc are larger part of the work then crypto (specs are ready). It is much easier for us to integrate signal protocol to Actor instead of doing opposite.
  • jacalata 11y ago
    It might be easier for you to do, but it seems like a worse end goal.
    • ex3ndr 11y ago
      We can discuss this if you will explain why goal is worse.
      • jacalata 11y ago
        Because people already use Signal and fragmentation of the secure messaging space makes it less useful.
        • ex3ndr 11y ago
          When Signal will became federated network we can join networks together no problem here.
  • newman314 11y ago
    If you are going to build something new, I guess I'll throw my suggestion of Signal+Ricochet+Burner in. * Signal - the crypto * Ricochet - no metadata leaking * Burner - the ability to have multiple IDs without trying to tie to PII Last but not least, a commitment to have Actor code evaluated by credible outside security firm.
    • ex3ndr 11y ago
      I have have a look after Ricochet it just uses Tor for clearing metadata. We had in the past prototypes with tor enabled messaging on mobile and it is not work as expected. Always too long to start on iOS (that can't execute in background), but we found a way to make it work much better i hope in some day we will be able to make it work together, but now it is much better to use tor proxy somewhere and point app to it. Not very user friendly.