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You're drawing a false dichotomy when you talk about technology and policy as separate issues. If you are unable to overhear my encrypted messages, were you st
by drewcrawford 11y ago
You're drawing a false dichotomy when you talk about technology and policy as separate issues. If you are unable to overhear my encrypted messages, were you stopped by the technology of the Salsa20 algorithm or my policy of not giving you the keys? Or were you stopped by the government's policy of not compelling their production for you? Maybe you were stopped by your own policy of not beating people with rubber hoses?
In the hypothetical that Apple did not have the capability to defeat the 5C's passcode counter, is the FBI thwarted because of a technically secure cryptosystem or because it is the policy in the United States to allow such cryptosystems to be marketed and sold?
Policy and technology do not exist in a vacuum. Apple is obviously going to close the custom image loophole in response to this "debate"; so clearly the boundary between technology and policy is fluid. But merely taping a policy out for silicon, as Apple is going to do in the next chip, does not address any of the underlying issues. Sure, in the instant case Apple "technically can" unlock the iPhone, but that is always true: we could create a law such that all phones must be backdoored for example. Assuming Apple loses here, mark your calendar, because we'll have that battle next year when a terrorist uses the new silicon.
There is a line somewhere for what is reasonable to compel. Reasonable people can disagree about where that line is, but let's not paint "people in technology" with a broad patronizing brush of "it's not technology, it's policy, therefore your rules don't apply". Technology is merely policy that's machine-readible.
- tptacek 11y agoI don't think any of this has anything to do with the comment I wrote. You have a strong policy opinion. That's fine. I didn't criticize it.
- drewcrawford 11y agoSpecifically, my comment addressed these parts of your comment: > It won't make phones less secure in any technological sense... The kind of insecurity people are talking about is a policy concern; (My comment alleges there is no such thing as a "technological sense" as distinct from a "policy concern".) > It annoys me a lot when people in technology deploy special- pleading logic like this. (My comment alleges that the logic isn't special-pleading.) I didn't intend to be read as confrontationally as perhaps I sounded. You have a minority position in this kind of environment; I take minority positions sometimes, I understand it is not always pleasant to prosecute them. If you don't want to prosecute them, I won't make you. I'm just explaining that I really did offer a good-faith rebuttal of what I understood to be your position. There may be something wrong with it, but I don't think it's off-topic.