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> except the government paid the bill, not the patient, a bit more civilised but still the problem stay the same (...) God I hate those moral high ground stanc
by Frozenlock 11y ago
> except the government paid the bill, not the patient, a bit more civilised but still the problem stay the same (...)
God I hate those moral high ground stances seeping everywhere in HN comments.
You think it's more civilized, I think it's barbaric to forcefully take something from someone. Just like that, you made it that much harder for me to take anything from what you've written.
> (...) second, most people are uneducated about diabetes, they think it concern only fat people or other countries, and other BS like that (...)
And the NYTimes article you linked immediately after starts by saying "The prevalence of diabetes has been rising in rich countries for several decades, largely driven by increases in the rate of obesity."
Are they totally clueless?
>finally, why it is disgusting and criminal for pharma corp to make ppl pay for insulin ? it as simple as that: if you don't take insulin you die, period.
Well, gee, it sure sounds like food, water, vitamins, or a bunch of other stuff that are sold for profit everywhere.
>It's not curable, there is no alternative diet, nothing, zilch, nada
Except that type 2 (the one that is the rise, by your linked article) is preventable. There is a high correlation between type 2 diabetes and sugar intake.
- eropple 11y ago> You think it's more civilized, I think it's barbaric to forcefully take something from someone. Nothing described in the post to which you replied is being forcefully taken from anyone. You live in a society. That society has a social contract, accepted in aggregate by its citizens and periodically subject to shifts--some of them that you may prefer, others that you may not. You cannot unilaterally renegotiate this contract, but you can choose to leave if you don't want to uphold your end of the social contract--literally nobody is stopping you from doing so! If you're an American, renouncing your citizenship is a very easy act that can be done at, IIRC, any consulate. You need not be under the onerous burden of that social contract and its (frankly, meager) expectations of you if you choose not to be. But, statistically, it's almost certain that you won't choose not to be. Because even the very, very rich benefit from statefulness and membership in a functioning society.
- dang 11y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11154983 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11154983 and marked it off-topic.