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Adobe: 7 million people attempt to download Flash each month

14 points by anderzole 17y ago

Dilpil 17y ago
I regularly fail to install flash on computers at libraries or even on my home computers. The installer is extremely buggy.
- pavel_lishin 17y ago
  Sometimes I try to make a sandwich, and drop the meat on the floor. Then I'm sad.
Kilimanjaro 17y ago
7M windows users like me who had to reformat their HD because of a virus. Just happened to me last week.
- dirtbox 17y ago
  Read the article. It's about iPhone users attempting to download it. Assuming there's no smoke and mirrors (unlikely) it would be the best piece of leverage so far in this increasingly pathetic squabble.
tvon 17y ago
"7 million people attempt to download Flash each month to their iPhones" I find that extremely hard to believe.
- dirtbox 17y ago
  It's more likely 7 million users per month hitting a page with flash on it is somehow being translated into an attempt to download.
  - mortenjorck 17y ago
    Probably counting the redirects to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer (which look like this: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/adobe-engages-apple-in-passive-aggressive-warfare-with-iphones/ http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/adobe-engages-apple-in-pa... on mobile Safari). Imagining a non-tech-savvy, new iPhone user presented with the idea of mobile internet for the first time, I just tried going to Hulu right now -- there's a pretty clear message on the home page that you need to "install Flash," which leads to the afore-linked page. I don't think 7 million is all that unreasonable.
symesc 17y ago
This could be 7 billion and it wouldn't change anything.
- symesc 17y ago
  Sorry if I've offended. My point was meant to be that regardless of how many iPhone users are attempting to download Flash, Apple is not going to change its stance unless Adobe addresses the performance issues within Flash. And even then Apple may not change. . . .
awa 17y ago
From the article: I’m not positive whether 7 million attempts directly translates into 7 million iPhone/iPod touch users it’s entirely possible it’s just ONE GUY who really doesn’t get it
blasdel 17y ago
7 million people each month get redirected to Adobe's passive-aggressive appeal stating that they "could totally provide Flash for the iPhone, if only Apple would let us", because they browsed to a mouse/keyboard-dependent Flash game, or a page festooned with flash ads. Meanwhile, Adobe has not delivered a full Flash player for Android or WebOS. I'd heard that there's one packaged for Maemo as a normal NPAPI plugin built for ARM, but Nokia+Mozilla won't ship it because it sucks.
- dirtbox 17y ago
  Love it or hate it, flash still counts for a lot of the entertainment sector's web functionality. Apple should admit that many of it's users miss that and will continue do so with even greater poignancy when the iPad ships. This will rage on until HTML5 is able to replicate and improve on every function of flash.
  - pyre 17y ago
    Which it doesn't for things like access to audio/video inputs (i.e. microphones and webcams). Though I have to admit that I find the prospect of configuring those through a Chrome or Firefox preferences interface more compelling than doing so through Flash.
radley 17y ago
original article: The company told me today that in December, there were more than 7 million attempts to download Flash from Adobe.com from iPhones and iPod Touches
cgranade 17y ago
That statistic would be more impressive if their download site worked properly. I've been stuck without Flash for a while now because I use Linux on a 64-bit machine, but the Flash 10.1 beta page has only dead links (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/).
- wanderr 17y ago
  Did you read the article? It's about iPhone/iPod download attempts.

14 points by anderzole 17y ago

I regularly fail to install flash on computers at libraries or even on my home computers. The installer is extremely buggy.

pavel_lishin 17y ago
Sometimes I try to make a sandwich, and drop the meat on the floor. Then I'm sad.

Kilimanjaro 17y ago

7M windows users like me who had to reformat their HD because of a virus. Just happened to me last week.

dirtbox 17y ago
Read the article. It's about iPhone users attempting to download it. Assuming there's no smoke and mirrors (unlikely) it would be the best piece of leverage so far in this increasingly pathetic squabble.

tvon 17y ago

"7 million people attempt to download Flash each month to their iPhones" I find that extremely hard to believe.

dirtbox 17y ago
It's more likely 7 million users per month hitting a page with flash on it is somehow being translated into an attempt to download.
- mortenjorck 17y ago
  Probably counting the redirects to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer (which look like this: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/adobe-engages-apple-in-passive-aggressive-warfare-with-iphones/ http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/adobe-engages-apple-in-pa... on mobile Safari). Imagining a non-tech-savvy, new iPhone user presented with the idea of mobile internet for the first time, I just tried going to Hulu right now -- there's a pretty clear message on the home page that you need to "install Flash," which leads to the afore-linked page. I don't think 7 million is all that unreasonable.

symesc 17y ago

This could be 7 billion and it wouldn't change anything.

symesc 17y ago
Sorry if I've offended. My point was meant to be that regardless of how many iPhone users are attempting to download Flash, Apple is not going to change its stance unless Adobe addresses the performance issues within Flash. And even then Apple may not change. . . .

awa 17y ago

From the article: I’m not positive whether 7 million attempts directly translates into 7 million iPhone/iPod touch users it’s entirely possible it’s just ONE GUY who really doesn’t get it

blasdel 17y ago

7 million people each month get redirected to Adobe's passive-aggressive appeal stating that they "could totally provide Flash for the iPhone, if only Apple would let us", because they browsed to a mouse/keyboard-dependent Flash game, or a page festooned with flash ads. Meanwhile, Adobe has not delivered a full Flash player for Android or WebOS. I'd heard that there's one packaged for Maemo as a normal NPAPI plugin built for ARM, but Nokia+Mozilla won't ship it because it sucks.

dirtbox 17y ago
Love it or hate it, flash still counts for a lot of the entertainment sector's web functionality. Apple should admit that many of it's users miss that and will continue do so with even greater poignancy when the iPad ships. This will rage on until HTML5 is able to replicate and improve on every function of flash.
- pyre 17y ago
  Which it doesn't for things like access to audio/video inputs (i.e. microphones and webcams). Though I have to admit that I find the prospect of configuring those through a Chrome or Firefox preferences interface more compelling than doing so through Flash.

radley 17y ago

original article: The company told me today that in December, there were more than 7 million attempts to download Flash from Adobe.com from iPhones and iPod Touches

cgranade 17y ago

That statistic would be more impressive if their download site worked properly. I've been stuck without Flash for a while now because I use Linux on a 64-bit machine, but the Flash 10.1 beta page has only dead links (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/).

wanderr 17y ago
Did you read the article? It's about iPhone/iPod download attempts.