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I think what's being lost in the shuffle is Apple has no credibility in claiming its protecting your privacy and security. http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/18/tech

by jwiley 11y ago

I think what's being lost in the shuffle is Apple has no credibility in claiming its protecting your privacy and security. http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/18/technology/security/apple-privacy/ http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/18/technology/security/apple-pr...

white-flame 11y ago
At the center of it all, everybody's scuffling to be the all-seeing eye of the internet. Google/Apple/Facebook/ad networks/etc all want to know everything, to be able to sell & exploit that information. They don't want that precious IP to be diluted and lose value, so they must defend their freedom and autonomy to do what they'd call "evil" if others did it.
oldmanjay 11y ago
That doesn't really seem to be related here. One of the reasons I gave up on Slashdot was how people used any story as a tangent to flog their unrelated hatred of some company. Please don't turn HN into Slashdot.
- jwiley 11y ago
  I'm sorry I gave you the impression I hate Apple, thats certainly not what I intended. One of the implicit ideas underlying Apple's arguments is that they are more trustworthy than the government. But theres a lot of evidence that they are not as strong on privacy as they should be. Casting Apple, and private industry in general as privacy heros does a disservice to those very valid concerns. Heres an article from earlier this month: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-iphone-software-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repair http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-... http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/16/apple-releases-ios-9/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/16/apple-rel...
  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    None of this gives me the impression that I should trust the government at all, so why bother making the argument against Apple here? It doesn't effectively rebut the article. It just comes off as axe-grinding.

by jwiley 11y ago

white-flame 11y ago

At the center of it all, everybody's scuffling to be the all-seeing eye of the internet. Google/Apple/Facebook/ad networks/etc all want to know everything, to be able to sell & exploit that information. They don't want that precious IP to be diluted and lose value, so they must defend their freedom and autonomy to do what they'd call "evil" if others did it.

oldmanjay 11y ago

That doesn't really seem to be related here. One of the reasons I gave up on Slashdot was how people used any story as a tangent to flog their unrelated hatred of some company. Please don't turn HN into Slashdot.

jwiley 11y ago
I'm sorry I gave you the impression I hate Apple, thats certainly not what I intended. One of the implicit ideas underlying Apple's arguments is that they are more trustworthy than the government. But theres a lot of evidence that they are not as strong on privacy as they should be. Casting Apple, and private industry in general as privacy heros does a disservice to those very valid concerns. Heres an article from earlier this month: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-iphone-software-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repair http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-... http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/16/apple-releases-ios-9/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/09/16/apple-rel...
- oldmanjay 11y ago
  None of this gives me the impression that I should trust the government at all, so why bother making the argument against Apple here? It doesn't effectively rebut the article. It just comes off as axe-grinding.