5 ms·

Couple things. I think it is pretty cool that a college social network has morphed into a horrifyingly privacy invading intelligience company just as much ad t

Couple things. I think it is pretty cool that a college social network has morphed into a horrifyingly privacy invading intelligience company just as much ad the next guy, but seriously WTF? I assume there is a good reason they are using drones? The deep learning of satellite data was interesting, but why is it neccessary? Assuming you just use planet labs or something similar to get data and you process it, you find the people. Makes sense. Except in the case that these people regularly migrate as nomadic beduins i guess you could serve your popup drone fleet at them as bushpeople don't have adblock. But if they are just poor people who are trying to get by and live, to the extent possible, like many other people, I don't get it. Surely you have a chicken and an egg problem here, right? They either have running water and some semblance of infrastructure like roads and power, or they don't. Unless Matk is going to airdrop a fission reactor wouldnt have been easier to ask thr power company or trace the lines? Second thing. Why not towers, or just paying for LEO sattelite nets? Don't get it, but I guesz it one ups self calibrating loon baloons...

egwor 11y ago
I could see how this might be cool for concerts or for news (figure out where everyone is looking at) or for herding cattle. I think it is a bit weird tracking people's normal activities.
Umn44 11y ago
>but seriously WTF? Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY Brezinski at a press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g Major powers, and imposing control over the awakened masses. https://youtu.be/4usbR_kKCDs?t=397 https://youtu.be/4usbR_kKCDs?t=397 Important: http://williamblum.org/aer/read/137 http://williamblum.org/aer/read/137
7952 11y ago
> They either have running water and some semblance of infrastructure like roads and power, or they don't. That really doesn't apply to subsistence farming communities, for example in sub-Saharan Africa. Population will be much more dispersed than in more urbanised developed countries. You can have tiny farmsteads with a dozen people every 100 yards covering thousands of miles of apparently rural land. Connecting mains water or electricity is impossibly expensive, but cell phones can still be widely used though communal charging.
- angersock 11y ago
  At the risk of being gauche... If the main benefit of Facebook is advertising, why bother extending functionality to people who are too poor to buy anything?
  - ehnto 11y ago
    I presume it will be targeted advertising. But I don't know what the end goal is. Both the target market and the target publishers are a mystery so far as I can tell. Perhaps government or regieme campaigns will be the main buyer of advertisements to such detatched communities. I wonder what the cost per conversion is for rural votes?
- vonklaus 11y ago
  A friend of mine helped out in Uganda and you are correct. If India, or wherever they are targeting is similar they will have limited electricity and limited clean water. It was my understanding that the village my friend worked at had a rationed power supply for the wotkers and medical clinic that was run by a generator. Do this is my point. Literally providing access to water with a hole and pneumatics was such an improvement in quality of life I am not sure what the usecase for this is. * complicated totally foreign technology * lack of charging ability * likelyhood of downloading the cracked screen app is pretty high. * using low cost satelites and repeaters has to make more sense. So I am not sure what communal charging is, but if it is a crank box or generator, In the hypothetical we have just invented it would almost certainly be cheaper (but way less sexier) to just build low cost suburban housing like the hexayurt and provide education and technology from existing infrastructure. How Silicon Valley is a distributed drone based LAN that provides a hookup app to people starving in the bush, or in the sluns of India. The tech is intellectually stimulating, it is one if the main usecases for Planet Labs Api, but maybe im missing something, but how does this make sense. Also, how does this operate in production, these things fly around and then link to eacjother and towers recharging several times a day? Those are real questions. What is the application and ehat does the implementation look like?

egwor 11y ago

I could see how this might be cool for concerts or for news (figure out where everyone is looking at) or for herding cattle. I think it is a bit weird tracking people's normal activities.

Umn44 11y ago

>but seriously WTF? Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY Brezinski at a press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g Major powers, and imposing control over the awakened masses. https://youtu.be/4usbR_kKCDs?t=397 https://youtu.be/4usbR_kKCDs?t=397 Important: http://williamblum.org/aer/read/137 http://williamblum.org/aer/read/137

7952 11y ago

> They either have running water and some semblance of infrastructure like roads and power, or they don't. That really doesn't apply to subsistence farming communities, for example in sub-Saharan Africa. Population will be much more dispersed than in more urbanised developed countries. You can have tiny farmsteads with a dozen people every 100 yards covering thousands of miles of apparently rural land. Connecting mains water or electricity is impossibly expensive, but cell phones can still be widely used though communal charging.

angersock 11y ago
At the risk of being gauche... If the main benefit of Facebook is advertising, why bother extending functionality to people who are too poor to buy anything?
- ehnto 11y ago
  I presume it will be targeted advertising. But I don't know what the end goal is. Both the target market and the target publishers are a mystery so far as I can tell. Perhaps government or regieme campaigns will be the main buyer of advertisements to such detatched communities. I wonder what the cost per conversion is for rural votes?
vonklaus 11y ago
A friend of mine helped out in Uganda and you are correct. If India, or wherever they are targeting is similar they will have limited electricity and limited clean water. It was my understanding that the village my friend worked at had a rationed power supply for the wotkers and medical clinic that was run by a generator. Do this is my point. Literally providing access to water with a hole and pneumatics was such an improvement in quality of life I am not sure what the usecase for this is. * complicated totally foreign technology * lack of charging ability * likelyhood of downloading the cracked screen app is pretty high. * using low cost satelites and repeaters has to make more sense. So I am not sure what communal charging is, but if it is a crank box or generator, In the hypothetical we have just invented it would almost certainly be cheaper (but way less sexier) to just build low cost suburban housing like the hexayurt and provide education and technology from existing infrastructure. How Silicon Valley is a distributed drone based LAN that provides a hookup app to people starving in the bush, or in the sluns of India. The tech is intellectually stimulating, it is one if the main usecases for Planet Labs Api, but maybe im missing something, but how does this make sense. Also, how does this operate in production, these things fly around and then link to eacjother and towers recharging several times a day? Those are real questions. What is the application and ehat does the implementation look like?