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React.js Conf live stream [video]
- untog 11y agoAre we expecting any major announcements today in the vein of React Native?
- truebosko 11y agoI've been using React-Native on the 0.20 branch, so that seems to be the only thing I'd consider coming out.
- evan_ 11y agoNo- their three priorities for this year are "execution, execution, execution"
- mklim 11y agoThe current presenter just said (paraphrased): "Sorry, we don't have any huge announcements this year on the scale of React Native."
- Everhusk 11y agoI'd say this is a pretty big announcement: https://realm.io/news/introducing-realm-react-native/ https://realm.io/news/introducing-realm-react-native/
- sgrove 11y agoThey open-sourced their content-editable component, which sounds very impressive (basically, "let's fix content-editable once and for all") http://facebook.github.io/draft-js/ http://facebook.github.io/draft-js/
- coldtea 11y agoFor an "let's fix content-editable once and for all" affair, I don't think the initial widget they present on that page could be any more underwhelming.
- spicyj 11y agoThanks, that's valuable feedback. What would you suggest instead? The goal is that with Draft.js you can easily build any UI you want and Draft.js helps you manage the underlying model and DOM manipulations. I am sure that several people will build and publish drop-in components using Draft.js within days.
- coldtea 11y ago>Thanks, that's valuable feedback. What would you suggest instead? Well, something closer to CKEditor or, if you prefer minimal, something like the editor in Medium.com.
- brianorwhatever 11y agoGlad I can watch from my comfortable office
- truckle 11y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi62S_MvheE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi62S_MvheE seems to work better
- dsp1234 11y agoNote that the URL of the live stream appeared to be wrong for me. was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fCEeAgeRC0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fCEeAgeRC0 should be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi62S_MvheE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi62S_MvheE
- dang 11y agoThanks. How about we just change the URL from http://conf.reactjs.com/ http://conf.reactjs.com/ to the latter.
- nshung 11y agoIs there any benefit in learning React Native since I have to write for both Android and iOS platform?
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- bgun 11y agoCode reuse - I have an dual iOS/Android React Native app and over 90% of the codebase are generic components. Most of the difference are simply stylesheets, for platform-specific UX. Besides that, there's the incalculable benefit of being able to use the same mental model (to say nothing of programming language) when developing, especially when designing UI components and animations. Even if you had equal skill with building layouts in both systems, there's great advantage in not having to context switch.
- mrspeaker 11y agoAnd having your project live-reload on physical Android and iPhone devices at the same time is so cool!
- Exuma 11y agoIt's beyond amazing imo. Tricky in some areas but I just launched a pretty complex app in 4 months with 100% attention given to both android + ios, and it was just 1.5 developers (averaged over time).
- manuelflara 11y agoWould you mind sharing a link to the app? I haven't seen (that I'm aware of) many apps using React Native.
- sniuff 11y agoYou could take a look at [1] which features the list of apps using react native. [1] https://facebook.github.io/react-native/showcase.html https://facebook.github.io/react-native/showcase.html
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- jbeja 11y agoI would like to be excited for irrelevant things like this as most people on this thread.
- coldtea 11y agoYes, but alas you have so much greater things to care about than us, that it's surprising you even took the time to comment on this thread.
- jbeja 11y agoThe time I took to write this comments are meaningless compare of the time that it would took me to watch the whole thing. And what I have to say is more important than anything else for me.
- st3v3r 11y agoNo, it's not. Not when what you're saying is doing absolutely nothing for the conversation, and really is just shitting on the work of others to make yourself look cool.
- jbeja 11y ago"No, it's not." You don't tell what to believe. The extreme fanboyism of this site makes me cringe so hard that it triggered me. Can't be helped.
- dang 11y agoYour comments here are breaking the HN guidelines. Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
- gooddoob 11y agoFacebook developers are arrogant. Developers from google are more humble and down to earth!
- mundanevoice 11y agoI agree!
- mundanevoice 11y agoFanboyism is such a hip with HN crowd. Not ready to listen to anything, as if downvotes and upvotes could really do anything!
- m2mathew 11y agoI would expect a company hosting their own conference to be excited about it!
- glibgil 11y agoMakes sense. I'd be proud if I was behind React and humble if I was behind Angular
- gooddoob 11y agoGoogle is trying to make web better by bringing things like Service Workers not by releasing Libraries.
- gooddoob 11y agoMake sense now?
- marknutter 11y agoYou're comparing the wrong things. The correct comparison would be with Polymer, which Google is pouring far more resources into than Angular.
- glibgil 11y ago
- draw_down 11y agoHighly recommend the "hide chat" button.
- m2mathew 11y agoSomeone give Ben Alpert some water to drink!
- mstade 11y agoI'm more and more convinced that Facebook is reinventing Adobe Flex. Not sure whether this is good or bad.
- watty 11y agoAdobe Flex without Adobe or plugins? Sign me up!
- ceedan 11y agoReact runs on Flash 11? Okay.
- hex13 11y agolike Angular does. Nothing new.
- edko 11y agoA big difference is that Facebook is using React in their own products. I don't think they will be as happy to dump the whole thing as soon as there is a slight change in winds, like Adobe did with Flex. Flex, although still alive thanks to the efforts of a group of unsung heroes, is not a platform on which I would build anything new.
- mstade 11y agoTo be fair, so did Adobe in a lot of theirs. They did bet hard on Flash as a platform; it just wasn't a very good bet, and very little of it went into improving the actual runtime. Instead, they tried putting sugar on top (e.g. Flex) which obviously just added to the bloat. That said, some of that sugar had some interesting ideas going for them, lacking execution notwithstanding. Obviously I agree with you, I would never build anything new with Flex, or target the Flash runtime; but that's not to say there aren't good lessons to be learned and concepts to be snatched. Hence, the "not sure if good or bad" comment – it depends on what you steal I guess.
- ausjke 11y agonice, hope these videos will be archived for later watching.
- vjeux 11y agothey will
- lightblade 11y agoAh I missed the live stream. Anywhere I can watch a recording of the keynote?
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- vjeux 11y agohttp://conf.reactjs.com/ http://conf.reactjs.com/ We put the most up to date version on this page
- tonyle 11y agoFirst thing I see, Content editable, the good parts. I'm expecting a Spreadsheets, the good parts coming next year or two base on the way people keep talking about state.
- spicyj 11y agoThe rich text editor framework is open source now! http://facebook.github.io/draft-js/ http://facebook.github.io/draft-js/ HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11153757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11153757
- marknutter 11y agoYet another rich text editor that requires lock-in with a particular library or framework. Web components can't come soon enough.
- spicyj 11y agoWell, you definitely don't have to use React for the rest of your app if you don't want to – you can use a Draft component inside any web app. You could also use the underlying Draft model and manage the view entirely yourself, but React helps a lot here and removes a lot of complexity from Draft.
- marknutter 11y agoAs opposed to just dropping <draft/> into my page? No thanks.
- tlrobinson 11y agoSo create a web component that wraps draft.js?
- marknutter 11y agoSo your answer is to require pulling in an entire view library just to make a simple rich text editor work? Also, I'm disheartened by the simple, anonymous down votes my comments are receiving rather than actual rebuttals. At least you had the decency to respond.
- lopatin 11y agoSorry if I missed it, are there links to any kind of further reading or discussion regarding what Ben Alpert (spicyj) mentioned about implementing layouts in React? I do a lot of render -> dom-measure -> re-render and it's not the greatest. Would love to dive deeper into what the React team has in mind.
- iLoch 11y agoWow the comments in here are awful. How about some constructive discussions folks? If you're not impressed by React or don't think it's useful, what, if anything, can we say or show you to convince you otherwise? I'm assuming that's what you're here - for knowledge - otherwise, why are you here? I'm glad there have been no major announcements. This isn't an Apple keynote. We should want our tools to be predictable, stable, and paid attention to. Introducing more React stuff would be cool, don't get me wrong. But some of us are actually trying to build products and having stability and feature depth is more important than throwing React at another problem. The React team is fairly small and so they should stick to solving specific problems. There's still lots to be done in React Native. Looking forward to seeing what the second half of the day brings. A lot of this stuff isn't particularly new to me but that's ok too. It's good to see they're still doing talks which introduce new users.
- Bahamut 11y agoThe comments are pretty bad both ways, i.e. this whole thread is shameful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11152864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11152864 There's little constructive purpose for these bad faith remarks in threads like that in general (I've probably been guilty of some in the past myself). No need to slam one thing to raise up another - let tools stand on their own merit, and criticize based on that alone. FWIW, I'm pretty heavily involved in the Angular community, and I respect what Facebook has done in creating & fostering React - I keep an eye on it because I love just about all things frontend on the web, even if I don't use React much (although I might use React Native for an app for a community I am a part of).
- st3v3r 11y ago"I'm assuming that's what you're here - for knowledge - otherwise, why are you here?" To look cool to other developers by shitting all over something.
- coldtea 11y agoI don't think anybody ends up looking cool -- more like an idiot. So it's mostly "to vent my frustration for other aspects of my life in needless negativity and aggression in an unrelated topic".
- mwcampbell 11y agoI gather from the slip-up near the end of the Microsoft talk that React Native for Windows isn't here yet, but it's coming. But I'm guessing that will only be for Universal Windows Platform (i.e. mobile and tablet-style) apps, not Win32 desktop applications.
- edko 11y agoI'm crossing my fingers for the "one more thing" moment when they will announce that nuclide for React is now available, but it doesn't look likely.
- mgleason_3 11y agoToo bad I missed it - anyone know where we can watch a replay?