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http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/02/21/2035225/yelp-employee-posts-open-letter-about-cost-of-living-and-low-wages-gets-fired http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/

by carl_ 11y ago

http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/02/21/2035225/yelp-employee-posts-open-letter-about-cost-of-living-and-low-wages-gets-fired http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/02/21/2035225/yelp-employe... > And I am sure it had nothing to do with her getting alcohol delivered to her while at work [archive.is] or bragging about making sexual jokes to the companies twitter account [imgur.com]. It's either quite a coincidence or she knew she was in trouble and wrote the letter to try and make the company look worse.

qstnblethics 11y ago
Why would getting alcohol delivered to work be an issue?
- iamdave 11y ago
  Well, I-personally-don't know if "issue" is really the right word to use. I will say, as someone who drinks that brand of Bourbon quite regularly-the act causes me to ask if she's spending her money wisely living in one of the most expensive cities in America if she's having such a hard time making a livable wage that she's also having to eat at work constantly. Maybe buying mid-tier bourbon that can run anywhere from $28-$40 (depending on the size) on liquor isn't the best way to behave financially. I wont comment on what this means as far as her relationship with Yelp, since I don't know their policies on drinking at the office. I suppose then, if there is an issue, it's one of the credibility of the source.
  - ubercore 11y ago
    We don't get to judge her financial acumen. She's young, she buys booze. Big whoop. Maybe it was for a present for a sibling's wedding. Maybe a close friend. Maybe she just makes bad financial choices. That's not the story here.
    - iamdave 11y ago
      You know what, you're absolutely right. We don't get to judge her her financial acumen. We don't get to judge her on anything really that doesn't impact other people in a negative fashion. I'm just evaluating various externalizes of her situation and how she responded to them and considering how they may ostensibly contribute to that situation improving, or failing to improve accordingly. So yeah you're right, it's not the story here...it's just something ancillary. I suppose it's a good thing I was only answering tangentially hypothetical question.
      - ubercore 11y ago
        The reason I say we don't get to judge it is because we don't know _anything_ outside of someone digging up two twitter posts. That's it. You're evaluating a strawman to subtly twist this.
        iamdave 11y ago
        I didn't ask why we don't get to judge. That wasn't part of, point of, or component of any of what I just said.
        VLM 11y ago
        A world with more judgment would be a better world.
        xlm1717 11y ago
        More judgment would not make it a better world.
    - pkinsky 11y ago
      Her blog post talks about living off of a single bag of rice plus free food at work because she couldn't afford to buy groceries. Do expensive booze deliveries not count as groceries?
ubercore 11y ago
This is just another form of victim blaming, isn't it?
- iamdave 11y ago
  So I have this question about 'victim blaming': How do we distinguish genuinely blaming the victim, and bringing a spotlight to the culpability of the alleged? We don't have 100% of the background facts of this situation, so that question isn't meant to suggest or imply completely that Ms. Jane is at fault completely for everything that took place here. It's just something I've often wondered when contrasting claims of "blaming the victim" and looking at the information being sold to me by the agent of dissemination.

by carl_ 11y ago

qstnblethics 11y ago

Why would getting alcohol delivered to work be an issue?

iamdave 11y ago
Well, I-personally-don't know if "issue" is really the right word to use. I will say, as someone who drinks that brand of Bourbon quite regularly-the act causes me to ask if she's spending her money wisely living in one of the most expensive cities in America if she's having such a hard time making a livable wage that she's also having to eat at work constantly. Maybe buying mid-tier bourbon that can run anywhere from $28-$40 (depending on the size) on liquor isn't the best way to behave financially. I wont comment on what this means as far as her relationship with Yelp, since I don't know their policies on drinking at the office. I suppose then, if there is an issue, it's one of the credibility of the source.
- ubercore 11y ago
  We don't get to judge her financial acumen. She's young, she buys booze. Big whoop. Maybe it was for a present for a sibling's wedding. Maybe a close friend. Maybe she just makes bad financial choices. That's not the story here.
  - iamdave 11y ago
    You know what, you're absolutely right. We don't get to judge her her financial acumen. We don't get to judge her on anything really that doesn't impact other people in a negative fashion. I'm just evaluating various externalizes of her situation and how she responded to them and considering how they may ostensibly contribute to that situation improving, or failing to improve accordingly. So yeah you're right, it's not the story here...it's just something ancillary. I suppose it's a good thing I was only answering tangentially hypothetical question.
    - ubercore 11y ago
      The reason I say we don't get to judge it is because we don't know _anything_ outside of someone digging up two twitter posts. That's it. You're evaluating a strawman to subtly twist this.
      - iamdave 11y ago
        I didn't ask why we don't get to judge. That wasn't part of, point of, or component of any of what I just said.
      - VLM 11y ago
        A world with more judgment would be a better world.
        xlm1717 11y ago
        More judgment would not make it a better world.
  - pkinsky 11y ago
    Her blog post talks about living off of a single bag of rice plus free food at work because she couldn't afford to buy groceries. Do expensive booze deliveries not count as groceries?

ubercore 11y ago

This is just another form of victim blaming, isn't it?

iamdave 11y ago
So I have this question about 'victim blaming': How do we distinguish genuinely blaming the victim, and bringing a spotlight to the culpability of the alleged? We don't have 100% of the background facts of this situation, so that question isn't meant to suggest or imply completely that Ms. Jane is at fault completely for everything that took place here. It's just something I've often wondered when contrasting claims of "blaming the victim" and looking at the information being sold to me by the agent of dissemination.