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Two come to mind for me: Columbus, OH and Champaign, IL. Champaign seems pretty close to what you're looking for, but it's definitely too flat. That's why I'm

Two come to mind for me: Columbus, OH and Champaign, IL. Champaign seems pretty close to what you're looking for, but it's definitely too flat. That's why I'm leaving. Columbus has Ohio State right there, and is as booming as you're going to find in Ohio. It's a beautiful city for the size and there's a sizable tech industry there. It's a place I wouldn't hesitate to live, but I have yet to do my time in the bay area and look forward to trying that for a few years.

raju 19y ago
Columbus is a nice place to stay, as long as you don't mind the cold. I have been here for the past 4 years, and really like it. Its not too expensive, yet the city has a lot to offer, both socially and culturally. Having Ohio State's campus here brings a huge student population, and along with the working crowd in Columbus, makes for good balance. Though I maybe I am missing what jmtulloss is trying to get to here... There is a sizeable tech industry, but from my experience, you have one of three options - work for a financial (bank/insurance) firm, work for the state, or work consulting. Not too many startups in Columbus.. either that, or I am ill-informed [I hope I am ill-informed :D]
- jmtulloss 19y ago
  I actually don't know anything about the startup climate, you're right. I just know of a lot of big names out there. You would hope with a major engineering University right there and a sizable tech industry, there would be at least some startup culture.
motoko 19y ago
Columbus OH??? I lived in Columbus. Your opinion is invalid. Topography: absolutely flat Size: Columbus is a sprawling stain of concrete blight of about a million people. College: If you obsessively love football and Natti Light, OK. Tech Industry: name one. A small, dying satellite office of a huge multinational doesn't count. Neither does insurance or fast food. Beautiful: Short North area is OK, but nothing special unless you compare it Toledo or Dayton
- jmtulloss 19y ago
  I'm not sure I understand why my opinion is invalid. My family is in the Columbus area, I'm not entirely ignorant on the topic. And I do obsessively love football :)
  - davidw 19y ago
    I didn't vote anyone down, because I don't want to hog this whole thread, and some cool places turned up that I personally wouldn't consider but might be great for others (Madison sounds nice), but I think he's referring to the fact that Columbus is 1) bigger than the listed target size, 2) doesn't have a good climate, 3) is flatter than a pancake, and 4) according to him at least (I wouldn't have a clue) isn't really that great for startups/hackers anyway. Truth be told, I think my idea of 'topography' is different than a lot of people's. This is topography: http://www.welton.it/photos/innsbruck/innsbruck_panorama.html http://www.welton.it/photos/innsbruck/innsbruck_panorama.htm... While I'm fine with places not quite that dramatic - Padova only has some low-lying hills (5-600 M) nearby - I'd go crazy without some nice places to go biking/hiking.

raju 19y ago

Columbus is a nice place to stay, as long as you don't mind the cold. I have been here for the past 4 years, and really like it. Its not too expensive, yet the city has a lot to offer, both socially and culturally. Having Ohio State's campus here brings a huge student population, and along with the working crowd in Columbus, makes for good balance. Though I maybe I am missing what jmtulloss is trying to get to here... There is a sizeable tech industry, but from my experience, you have one of three options - work for a financial (bank/insurance) firm, work for the state, or work consulting. Not too many startups in Columbus.. either that, or I am ill-informed [I hope I am ill-informed :D]

jmtulloss 19y ago
I actually don't know anything about the startup climate, you're right. I just know of a lot of big names out there. You would hope with a major engineering University right there and a sizable tech industry, there would be at least some startup culture.

motoko 19y ago

Columbus OH??? I lived in Columbus. Your opinion is invalid. Topography: absolutely flat Size: Columbus is a sprawling stain of concrete blight of about a million people. College: If you obsessively love football and Natti Light, OK. Tech Industry: name one. A small, dying satellite office of a huge multinational doesn't count. Neither does insurance or fast food. Beautiful: Short North area is OK, but nothing special unless you compare it Toledo or Dayton

jmtulloss 19y ago
I'm not sure I understand why my opinion is invalid. My family is in the Columbus area, I'm not entirely ignorant on the topic. And I do obsessively love football :)
- davidw 19y ago
  I didn't vote anyone down, because I don't want to hog this whole thread, and some cool places turned up that I personally wouldn't consider but might be great for others (Madison sounds nice), but I think he's referring to the fact that Columbus is 1) bigger than the listed target size, 2) doesn't have a good climate, 3) is flatter than a pancake, and 4) according to him at least (I wouldn't have a clue) isn't really that great for startups/hackers anyway. Truth be told, I think my idea of 'topography' is different than a lot of people's. This is topography: http://www.welton.it/photos/innsbruck/innsbruck_panorama.html http://www.welton.it/photos/innsbruck/innsbruck_panorama.htm... While I'm fine with places not quite that dramatic - Padova only has some low-lying hills (5-600 M) nearby - I'd go crazy without some nice places to go biking/hiking.