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For some reason reading Talin's article made me really enraged. If you read it you will realize quickly that she is ready to blame everything else but herself.

For some reason reading Talin's article made me really enraged. If you read it you will realize quickly that she is ready to blame everything else but herself. Unfortunately she will be used by the media to portray the wrong picture of Millennials. Whatever attributes she has - is hers and hers only. It could be due to parenting, it could be due to her environment, etc. But please do not use her as a picture of the average Millennial.

chrisbennet 11y ago
How dare she complain about the meager scraps she's been thrown. The nerve! If she wanted a good job, she should have racked up a lot of dept and rolled the dice. You can't blame employers for paying minimum wage when there are so many desperate people who will take her place after all. That would be unamerican! AmIRight?
- onewaystreet 11y ago
  > You can't blame employers for paying minimum wage Some jobs pay more than others. Some jobs pay less than others. Unless you are arguing for completely equal pay then some people are going to have jobs that pay less than other people.
  - foldr 11y ago
    There have been times in the US when fewer people got paid shit wages than do at present. This isn't economically inevitable.
    - Turing_Machine 11y ago
      Unskilled phone-answerers have always made shit wages. I see a lot of people in this thread suggesting (or at least hinting) that there was some mythical Golden Age in which a telephone jockey got paid something other than the tiniest pittance allowed by law and/or market forces. That... is not the case.
      - foldr 11y ago
        I doubt that the wages of unskilled phone-answerers have stayed constant with respect to the cost of living over the past few decades.
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- hifier 11y ago
  "If she wanted a good job, she should have racked up a lot of dept and rolled the dice" Nice straw man.
maxxxxx 11y ago
Maybe she is complaining too much but when I was in my twenties people actually were paid OK money even for "low-end" jobs (even startups offered better stock options compared to now). I think it's just disrespectful when a company pays its people starvation wages. I guess this is another side effect of inequality: Companies want their workers for free while spending insane amounts on offices, executives and buying other companies. Together with student loans, sky-high house prices and employers wanting them to work for almost free, I understand that people in their twenties are down on the system.
- marknutter 11y ago
  She lives in one the most expensive cities on the planet. I would love to live there but I don't, even on an engineer's salary, because the cost is ridiculous. If she wants it easier, she should move to the Midwest. I suggest Minnesota, we have the lowest unemployment rate in the country.
- Turing_Machine 11y ago
  "Maybe she is complaining too much but when I was in my twenties people actually were paid OK money even for "low-end" jobs " I suspect I am a lot older than you, and I don't remember any period in which an entry-level customer service job paid enough money to support a roommate or relative-free apartment, much less in one of the most expensive cities on the planet.
  - maxxxxx 11y ago
    I am talking about the 80s
- ac29 11y ago
  Curious how you define a "low-end" job, and what year this was. I've lived in the Bay Area my entire life, and at her age, over ten years ago, I never had to live with less than 3 roommates. Things like saving for retirement, vacations, or emergencies were laughably impossible. And the kicker is: I made more than her, about double minimum wage ($15/hr, full-time with benefits, circa 2004). By no means should you assume I am complaining -- I didn't know anyone my age who wasn't in a similar situation. Now I made nearly twice that, and I still have to choose between renting a room in a house with 5 other people, and being able to save money for retirement/etc by living at home.

chrisbennet 11y ago

How dare she complain about the meager scraps she's been thrown. The nerve! If she wanted a good job, she should have racked up a lot of dept and rolled the dice. You can't blame employers for paying minimum wage when there are so many desperate people who will take her place after all. That would be unamerican! AmIRight?

onewaystreet 11y ago
> You can't blame employers for paying minimum wage Some jobs pay more than others. Some jobs pay less than others. Unless you are arguing for completely equal pay then some people are going to have jobs that pay less than other people.
- foldr 11y ago
  There have been times in the US when fewer people got paid shit wages than do at present. This isn't economically inevitable.
  - Turing_Machine 11y ago
    Unskilled phone-answerers have always made shit wages. I see a lot of people in this thread suggesting (or at least hinting) that there was some mythical Golden Age in which a telephone jockey got paid something other than the tiniest pittance allowed by law and/or market forces. That... is not the case.
    - foldr 11y ago
      I doubt that the wages of unskilled phone-answerers have stayed constant with respect to the cost of living over the past few decades.
    - deleted 11y ago
      [deleted]
hifier 11y ago
"If she wanted a good job, she should have racked up a lot of dept and rolled the dice" Nice straw man.

maxxxxx 11y ago

Maybe she is complaining too much but when I was in my twenties people actually were paid OK money even for "low-end" jobs (even startups offered better stock options compared to now). I think it's just disrespectful when a company pays its people starvation wages. I guess this is another side effect of inequality: Companies want their workers for free while spending insane amounts on offices, executives and buying other companies. Together with student loans, sky-high house prices and employers wanting them to work for almost free, I understand that people in their twenties are down on the system.

marknutter 11y ago
She lives in one the most expensive cities on the planet. I would love to live there but I don't, even on an engineer's salary, because the cost is ridiculous. If she wants it easier, she should move to the Midwest. I suggest Minnesota, we have the lowest unemployment rate in the country.
Turing_Machine 11y ago
"Maybe she is complaining too much but when I was in my twenties people actually were paid OK money even for "low-end" jobs " I suspect I am a lot older than you, and I don't remember any period in which an entry-level customer service job paid enough money to support a roommate or relative-free apartment, much less in one of the most expensive cities on the planet.
- maxxxxx 11y ago
  I am talking about the 80s
ac29 11y ago
Curious how you define a "low-end" job, and what year this was. I've lived in the Bay Area my entire life, and at her age, over ten years ago, I never had to live with less than 3 roommates. Things like saving for retirement, vacations, or emergencies were laughably impossible. And the kicker is: I made more than her, about double minimum wage ($15/hr, full-time with benefits, circa 2004). By no means should you assume I am complaining -- I didn't know anyone my age who wasn't in a similar situation. Now I made nearly twice that, and I still have to choose between renting a room in a house with 5 other people, and being able to save money for retirement/etc by living at home.