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well there are two areas to my incredible claim :) first is that the battery easily lasts me 2 days sometimes into a 3rd day if I use it a little less than nor

well there are two areas to my incredible claim :) first is that the battery easily lasts me 2 days sometimes into a 3rd day if I use it a little less than normal. however I only ever charge it for 15-20 minutes and in that time the fast charge gets me back up to 80something %. It is amazing how fast it charges. I never worry about the battery life on this phone which is the first time I have ever said that since smartphone came along. for me the fast charging is actually the more important thing for me as being able to get 50+% battery charge in around 15 minutes is just awesome.

danjayh 11y ago
Your battery life is great now, but what about 3 years from now? The current ~2 year phone refresh cycle should not last forever, and I think that both the S7 and the nexus have it wrong when it comes to batteries. Even at a gentle 50% Depth of Discharge, a typical li-ion is at only 70% capacity after ~1200 cycles. Bump that to near 100% DoD, and you're at 70% after only 300-500 cycles. Sealed-in batteries in a phone are, IMHO, even a bigger deal than the lack of expandable storage. Reference: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_li...
- kozukumi 11y ago
  A fair point. However I buy my phone SIM free for cash. I do not expect to keep this more than a year because like you said a built in battery isn't great. I will sell this phone/trade it in and buy whatever the new phone I want is. Doing it this way means I still get a good price for selling my phone to offset the cost of the new phone. Sure I spend about £200-250 on a phone each year but I am not tied into a contract for 24 months and I am on a great SIM only plan with unlimited 4G data for £15/month. When I calculate it over 24 months I save money over getting the same phone on a contract.
  - danjayh 11y ago
    Being off contract, you save the most money by the fact that you aren't forced to continually upgrade your phone to get your subsidy. I'm on a ~$25 USD/month plan with unlimited talk/text + 2.5GB LTE, and I typically keep my phones ~3 years. Having said that, as you stated, even if I needed to have new phones every year, it'd still be cheaper than a contract :).
  - chrishawes 11y ago
    Assuming you have a "One Plan" with Three, you won't have that tariff much longer.
  - chrishawes 11y ago
    Assuming you have a "One Plan" with Three, you won't have that tariff much longer.

danjayh 11y ago

Your battery life is great now, but what about 3 years from now? The current ~2 year phone refresh cycle should not last forever, and I think that both the S7 and the nexus have it wrong when it comes to batteries. Even at a gentle 50% Depth of Discharge, a typical li-ion is at only 70% capacity after ~1200 cycles. Bump that to near 100% DoD, and you're at 70% after only 300-500 cycles. Sealed-in batteries in a phone are, IMHO, even a bigger deal than the lack of expandable storage. Reference: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_li...

kozukumi 11y ago
A fair point. However I buy my phone SIM free for cash. I do not expect to keep this more than a year because like you said a built in battery isn't great. I will sell this phone/trade it in and buy whatever the new phone I want is. Doing it this way means I still get a good price for selling my phone to offset the cost of the new phone. Sure I spend about £200-250 on a phone each year but I am not tied into a contract for 24 months and I am on a great SIM only plan with unlimited 4G data for £15/month. When I calculate it over 24 months I save money over getting the same phone on a contract.
- danjayh 11y ago
  Being off contract, you save the most money by the fact that you aren't forced to continually upgrade your phone to get your subsidy. I'm on a ~$25 USD/month plan with unlimited talk/text + 2.5GB LTE, and I typically keep my phones ~3 years. Having said that, as you stated, even if I needed to have new phones every year, it'd still be cheaper than a contract :).
- chrishawes 11y ago
  Assuming you have a "One Plan" with Three, you won't have that tariff much longer.
- chrishawes 11y ago
  Assuming you have a "One Plan" with Three, you won't have that tariff much longer.