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What's the killer app for AR? speadsheets:computing, email:internet, ____::AR?

sdenton4 11y ago
One of my hopes is facial recognition, to help me remember who this person is who send to remember me so well. Maybe a couple notes on the person that I keep on the side as well... I often totally fail to recognize people outside of the contexts and places where I usually see them. So a fix would be amazing.
- AndrewKemendo 11y ago
  That use case is very intermittent though. A killer app would be something that you use 5-10x a day like maps, camera or email. I think it will be contextual based on what you are doing. At home it will be assistance (search, instructional) and entertainment based. At work it will replace monitors. In transit it would replace phone/dashboard GPS.
AndrewKemendo 11y ago
Not sure if there is a single one, just like there is not one killer app for the smartphone - though arguably it was the integrated camera that was the breakthrough for the iPhone. We are betting the killer app for mobile AR is for e-commerce/shopping.
- RogerL 11y ago
  Killer 'app' for the smartphone is pocket sized PC. It has enough compute power (coupled with the internet) to take over mapping, entertainment, entertainment planning (let's find a restaurant near us,make reservations, then see if there are any shows or movies nearby). It changed everything. I just wish the damn things didn't have a phone built in. What's the shopping angle for AR you are envisioning? We can take photos of QR codes or products, or just talk to the thing and it will bring up whatever I'm interested in (I do this all the time in a store to figure out which of N products I want to buy).
  - AndrewKemendo 11y ago
    >Killer 'app' for the smartphone is pocket sized PC. Yea but that's like I was saying, it's not one thing. So there isn't really one killer app, the killer app is whatever it is for any given user. >What's the shopping angle for AR you are envisioning? Well our startup Pair lets you put products into your environment like they are real, walk around them, take pictures or video and then purchase. [1]https://www.pair3d.com https://www.pair3d.com
jasonwatkinspdx 11y ago
I'm not quite sure what to call it, other than operations research. People focus a lot on consumer/entertainment applications, but I think heavy and high tech industry will rapidly adopt AR. Imagine a mechanic working their way through an interactive checklist while completing some maintenance task on a jet engine or other complex machinery. Even with hardware as rudimentary as google glass that's useful. But then consider Boeing in the moment that said engine unexpectedly caught fire. Imagine that they can go back and review footage of every time folks touched some component on that engine, or use basic machine vision techniques to confirm the position or state of some part? Now imagine they have that kind of visibility into the majority of what people's hands do on the shop floor or in hangers. There will be social issues and debate over this, which we're seeing with police body cameras, but I think ultimately safety will trump people's reluctance to have their every task recorded. Certainly in industries with high safety/risk implications, we'll see similar strong arguments for going there.
- andrewjl 11y ago
  One part of this that will need a lot more work is the visualization of all this data. All the seminal dataviz works (Tufte, etc) emphasize the 2D world.
- patrickk 11y ago
  Slightly less complex, consumer-focused possibilities: - Cook like an expert (with an AR), you don't have to glance at a screen or cookbook, all the steps are visible in your view/whispered in your ear as you need them, reminders to take the pasta off the boil at the correct moment, etc. - Repair or perform maintenance on a car - when you open the engine bay, the steps to change the air filter are available for your model of car.
  - mstolpm 11y ago
    "Cook like an expert": There's much more to cooking than just following steps. AR don't help much preventing you to slice the onions instead of your fingers. The wrong temperature, an egg that is larger or smaller ... it's timing and knowledge/experience, not a rule book that makes a great dish. Same for the car maintenance: Perhaps you could do it yourself and save a few bucks. Would you repair your breaks yourself with AR but no knowledge and understanding about cars and maintenance if the life of your children depends on these breaks? Both scenarios might work for an expert or at least someone who knows the fundamentals, but not for an unprepared consumer.
jhallenworld 11y ago
Whatever it is, I hope they have a solution for the issue of different focus for overlay and reality. Basically I won't use it if I get a headache. http://www.osa-opn.org/home/articles/volume_26/february_2015/features/augmented_reality_easy_on_the_eyes/ http://www.osa-opn.org/home/articles/volume_26/february_2015...

One of my hopes is facial recognition, to help me remember who this person is who send to remember me so well. Maybe a couple notes on the person that I keep on the side as well... I often totally fail to recognize people outside of the contexts and places where I usually see them. So a fix would be amazing.

AndrewKemendo 11y ago
That use case is very intermittent though. A killer app would be something that you use 5-10x a day like maps, camera or email. I think it will be contextual based on what you are doing. At home it will be assistance (search, instructional) and entertainment based. At work it will replace monitors. In transit it would replace phone/dashboard GPS.

AndrewKemendo 11y ago

Not sure if there is a single one, just like there is not one killer app for the smartphone - though arguably it was the integrated camera that was the breakthrough for the iPhone. We are betting the killer app for mobile AR is for e-commerce/shopping.

RogerL 11y ago
Killer 'app' for the smartphone is pocket sized PC. It has enough compute power (coupled with the internet) to take over mapping, entertainment, entertainment planning (let's find a restaurant near us,make reservations, then see if there are any shows or movies nearby). It changed everything. I just wish the damn things didn't have a phone built in. What's the shopping angle for AR you are envisioning? We can take photos of QR codes or products, or just talk to the thing and it will bring up whatever I'm interested in (I do this all the time in a store to figure out which of N products I want to buy).
- AndrewKemendo 11y ago
  >Killer 'app' for the smartphone is pocket sized PC. Yea but that's like I was saying, it's not one thing. So there isn't really one killer app, the killer app is whatever it is for any given user. >What's the shopping angle for AR you are envisioning? Well our startup Pair lets you put products into your environment like they are real, walk around them, take pictures or video and then purchase. [1]https://www.pair3d.com https://www.pair3d.com

jasonwatkinspdx 11y ago

I'm not quite sure what to call it, other than operations research. People focus a lot on consumer/entertainment applications, but I think heavy and high tech industry will rapidly adopt AR. Imagine a mechanic working their way through an interactive checklist while completing some maintenance task on a jet engine or other complex machinery. Even with hardware as rudimentary as google glass that's useful. But then consider Boeing in the moment that said engine unexpectedly caught fire. Imagine that they can go back and review footage of every time folks touched some component on that engine, or use basic machine vision techniques to confirm the position or state of some part? Now imagine they have that kind of visibility into the majority of what people's hands do on the shop floor or in hangers. There will be social issues and debate over this, which we're seeing with police body cameras, but I think ultimately safety will trump people's reluctance to have their every task recorded. Certainly in industries with high safety/risk implications, we'll see similar strong arguments for going there.

andrewjl 11y ago
One part of this that will need a lot more work is the visualization of all this data. All the seminal dataviz works (Tufte, etc) emphasize the 2D world.
patrickk 11y ago
Slightly less complex, consumer-focused possibilities: - Cook like an expert (with an AR), you don't have to glance at a screen or cookbook, all the steps are visible in your view/whispered in your ear as you need them, reminders to take the pasta off the boil at the correct moment, etc. - Repair or perform maintenance on a car - when you open the engine bay, the steps to change the air filter are available for your model of car.
- mstolpm 11y ago
  "Cook like an expert": There's much more to cooking than just following steps. AR don't help much preventing you to slice the onions instead of your fingers. The wrong temperature, an egg that is larger or smaller ... it's timing and knowledge/experience, not a rule book that makes a great dish. Same for the car maintenance: Perhaps you could do it yourself and save a few bucks. Would you repair your breaks yourself with AR but no knowledge and understanding about cars and maintenance if the life of your children depends on these breaks? Both scenarios might work for an expert or at least someone who knows the fundamentals, but not for an unprepared consumer.

jhallenworld 11y ago

Whatever it is, I hope they have a solution for the issue of different focus for overlay and reality. Basically I won't use it if I get a headache. http://www.osa-opn.org/home/articles/volume_26/february_2015/features/augmented_reality_easy_on_the_eyes/ http://www.osa-opn.org/home/articles/volume_26/february_2015...