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To be fair, most people are more pragmatic than politically idealistic. To me, living in the UK remains, pragmatically, a more appealing notion than living in (

To be fair, most people are more pragmatic than politically idealistic. To me, living in the UK remains, pragmatically, a more appealing notion than living in (almost) any other nation state I can think of. Even if there are shady things going on politically, pragmatically and factually one's life in the UK is less affected by government corruption than it would be in 90%+ of the world.

fit2rule 11y ago
This is what you are supposed to think, but what do you do when the Government won't rid itself of pedophiles, for example? When it grants itself the power to censor any individual, for any reason whatever? I think a big problem with the UK is that its people are comfortable with their ignorance. Would you agree?
- petercooper 11y ago
  I think a big problem with the UK is that its people are comfortable with their ignorance. Would you agree? That's a human problem. At least the Brits are lucky enough to be ignorant about issues that rarely affect their daily lives. When the majority of the world has government-induced issues like corrupt or racist judicial systems, conscription, violence, a lack of universal healthcare, the death penalty, a lack of food and water, disease, etc. it seems rather first world to talk about violent revolution in a country that's easily in the bottom quartile of countries that needs it. Is this idealistic, positive talk? Certainly not, but do I feel "oppressed" by living in the UK rather than, say, Russia or the US? Heck no, I feel very lucky to live here and I know about the problems. Could it be better and should we always remain vigilant as voters? Definitely! :-)
  - maus42 11y ago
    >conscription That one sounds like a weird one out there. Especially if you consider that the UK has (re)instated (and probably would in future) draft if the situation warrants.
    - petercooper 11y ago
      The last time the UK had conscription was 56 years ago - even longer ago than capital punishment was taken off the books. It would take an event of monumental proportions for conscription to be reinstated in modern British society.
  - fit2rule 11y ago
    "Look, over there! A worse situation! See! That could be you .. now tie this noose and get ready.."

fit2rule 11y ago

This is what you are supposed to think, but what do you do when the Government won't rid itself of pedophiles, for example? When it grants itself the power to censor any individual, for any reason whatever? I think a big problem with the UK is that its people are comfortable with their ignorance. Would you agree?

petercooper 11y ago
I think a big problem with the UK is that its people are comfortable with their ignorance. Would you agree? That's a human problem. At least the Brits are lucky enough to be ignorant about issues that rarely affect their daily lives. When the majority of the world has government-induced issues like corrupt or racist judicial systems, conscription, violence, a lack of universal healthcare, the death penalty, a lack of food and water, disease, etc. it seems rather first world to talk about violent revolution in a country that's easily in the bottom quartile of countries that needs it. Is this idealistic, positive talk? Certainly not, but do I feel "oppressed" by living in the UK rather than, say, Russia or the US? Heck no, I feel very lucky to live here and I know about the problems. Could it be better and should we always remain vigilant as voters? Definitely! :-)
- maus42 11y ago
  >conscription That one sounds like a weird one out there. Especially if you consider that the UK has (re)instated (and probably would in future) draft if the situation warrants.
  - petercooper 11y ago
    The last time the UK had conscription was 56 years ago - even longer ago than capital punishment was taken off the books. It would take an event of monumental proportions for conscription to be reinstated in modern British society.
- fit2rule 11y ago
  "Look, over there! A worse situation! See! That could be you .. now tie this noose and get ready.."