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Good to see people getting serious about Swift cross platform projects. Let's hope it doesn't share the fate of Apple's Dylan projects. Been looking into this

• melling 11y ago
  Why would you compare it to Dylan? Swift will be the most popular iOS language within 18 months. If you look at the new iOS books that are released, most use Swift. I count over 3 dozen books within 18 months of Swift's release: http://www.h4labs.com/dev/ios/books http://www.h4labs.com/dev/ios/books
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• cies 11y ago
  I also really have great hopes for Swift as a modern, x-platform, general purpose, compiled language. Go is not general purpose; Rust is too low level. Haskell has a too steep learning curve. Ur/Web is really great, but not at all general purpose. Why am I hung up over "general purposeness"? Well when I learn a language, it takes quite a bit of my time; then I want to be able to apply it broadly. Therefor I shun Node.js, Go and Erlang/Elixir.
  • cm3 11y ago
    Ur/Web is for web and thus not general purpose. I can't say if Ur (without web) is fit for general purpose use.
  • mayhew 11y ago
    > Go is not general purpose Can you explain?
    • wantreprenr007 11y ago
      There is no arguing with Turing equivalence of Go and most other languages but there are practical limitations which prevent more complete general purposeness. I like Go since the beginning. However, Go cannot be easily used for kernel development, soft or hard real-time or embedded systems (no linker script support and porting runtime is weighty) and there are few transpilers. Rust is slightly better, because PoC kernels have been put together with fewer hacks. Haskell, C, Ada, assembly are much more general purpose in terms of being able to build something like seL4, an F-15 cockpit, an engine management system or compiling code as ASIC circuitry. (Perl's supposed use in nuclear armaments notwithstanding.) PS: I would like to see some geninuses come up with a back-back-end to LLVM or a disassembler which could formally prove binary satisfiability of program correctness without mind-bending, gibberish, over-mathematized, incantations inaccessible to us mere, stupid mortals.
      • mercurial 11y ago
        Which language doesn't have "practical limitations"? And it's no doubt more "general purpose" than assembly. How much webdev are you going to do with assembly?
      • sulam 11y ago
        Pointers please to someone working on a kernel in Swift... :)
  • absker 11y ago
    How is Go not general purpose?
    • hellofunk 11y ago
      Try to build a mobile app with Go.
      • anandroiddev 11y ago
        You can build a mobile app in Go, for both Android and iOS. https://godoc.org/golang.org/x/mobile https://godoc.org/golang.org/x/mobile
        • hellofunk 11y ago
          I didn't say you can't do it. I said, try to do it. The phrase "general purpose" must be stretched considerably in such a case.
          • anandroiddev 11y ago
            Is there a language you _do_ consider "general purpose"?
            • hellofunk 11y ago
              Yes. More than one, actually.
      • ikurei 11y ago
        How are you then defining general-purpose? I'd say a language is general-purpose when it has not been tailored to a specific scenario or area of problems, but to work well for most. Isn't that, to a great extent, true for go?
  • niutech 11y ago
    Julia is general purpose and really fast. You can make desktop and web apps in it.