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That whole channel is amazing. Thanks for this.

by ethana 11y ago

agumonkey 11y ago
This channel led me to seek for bootstrapping technology from scratch: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=638073 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=638073 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/printthread.php?t=638073&pp=200 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/printthread.php?t=638073... http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562880 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562880
- tinco 11y ago
  Very fun topic to think about. My $.02: Together with the genetic diversity you need food, lots of food. I bet if you look up the average hunter-gatherer village size, that's about the maximum size of a population you can support on just hunter-gathering and perhaps some basic farming. To get a civilization that could support even a modest town large enough to support small mining operations and general trade you need the most important technology we've spent the past 10.000-40.000 years developing and which I don't see any technological shortcut to: The potato, banana, the chicken, the cow, etc. Superfoods, without which a civilization won't get very far and which will definitely not just exist on a planet that's never seen human cultivation. (There's a fun survivorman episode where he gets dropped in a jungle, and after a day or two of hardship he stumbles upon an abandoned farm, instantly the whole 'surviving' aspect is gone and the rest of the episode is about him trying to live comfortably (i.e. not being eaten by ants at night), the difference between a bleeding edge modern mango and sucking on a wild berry is stark (the episode is called "Grenada Jungle"))
  - agumonkey 11y ago
    I was more interested into technology rather than society. I'd love to see that episode of survivorman. ps: random collision, I was just watching this http://typotalks.com/berlin/2012/speakers/single-speaker/?tid=376&et=TYPO%20Berlin%202012 http://typotalks.com/berlin/2012/speakers/single-speaker/?ti... when I realized it's similar to your vanished survivor mindset.
- joshvm 11y ago
  One of my supervisor's colleagues wrote a book on bootstrapping which I've been meaning to read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Knowledge-Rebuild-World-Scratch/dp/1847922279 http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Knowledge-Rebuild-World-Scratch/... He also gave a Google talk a while back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRV8ccyEE0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRV8ccyEE0
  - agumonkey 11y ago
    Oh the title sounds familiar, on the other hand no talk in mind .. great. ps: his fire starting example reminded me of this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEl-Y1NvBVI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEl-Y1NvBVI (no supermarket involved though)
akavi 11y ago
It really is some of the best content on youtube. To further convince anyone reading this: He has videos on making huts, axes, drills, baskets, and more, all completely from scratch and all with (to my taste, at least) extremely good, no wasted time editing. Well worth your hour to watch them all.

That whole channel is amazing. Thanks for this.

by ethana 11y ago

That whole channel is amazing. Thanks for this.

This channel led me to seek for bootstrapping technology from scratch: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=638073 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=638073 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/printthread.php?t=638073&pp=200 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/printthread.php?t=638073... http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562880 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562880

tinco 11y ago
Very fun topic to think about. My $.02: Together with the genetic diversity you need food, lots of food. I bet if you look up the average hunter-gatherer village size, that's about the maximum size of a population you can support on just hunter-gathering and perhaps some basic farming. To get a civilization that could support even a modest town large enough to support small mining operations and general trade you need the most important technology we've spent the past 10.000-40.000 years developing and which I don't see any technological shortcut to: The potato, banana, the chicken, the cow, etc. Superfoods, without which a civilization won't get very far and which will definitely not just exist on a planet that's never seen human cultivation. (There's a fun survivorman episode where he gets dropped in a jungle, and after a day or two of hardship he stumbles upon an abandoned farm, instantly the whole 'surviving' aspect is gone and the rest of the episode is about him trying to live comfortably (i.e. not being eaten by ants at night), the difference between a bleeding edge modern mango and sucking on a wild berry is stark (the episode is called "Grenada Jungle"))
- agumonkey 11y ago
  I was more interested into technology rather than society. I'd love to see that episode of survivorman. ps: random collision, I was just watching this http://typotalks.com/berlin/2012/speakers/single-speaker/?tid=376&et=TYPO%20Berlin%202012 http://typotalks.com/berlin/2012/speakers/single-speaker/?ti... when I realized it's similar to your vanished survivor mindset.
joshvm 11y ago
One of my supervisor's colleagues wrote a book on bootstrapping which I've been meaning to read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Knowledge-Rebuild-World-Scratch/dp/1847922279 http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Knowledge-Rebuild-World-Scratch/... He also gave a Google talk a while back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRV8ccyEE0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRV8ccyEE0
- agumonkey 11y ago
  Oh the title sounds familiar, on the other hand no talk in mind .. great. ps: his fire starting example reminded me of this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEl-Y1NvBVI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEl-Y1NvBVI (no supermarket involved though)

akavi 11y ago

It really is some of the best content on youtube. To further convince anyone reading this: He has videos on making huts, axes, drills, baskets, and more, all completely from scratch and all with (to my taste, at least) extremely good, no wasted time editing. Well worth your hour to watch them all.