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My first thought: Apple should buy this company and integrate legal advice into Siri. "Hey Siri, I've just been pulled over by the police." "OK. Here are your r

My first thought: Apple should buy this company and integrate legal advice into Siri. "Hey Siri, I've just been pulled over by the police." "OK. Here are your rights:"

huac 11y ago
giving legal advice is always pretty tricky (even if that advice is 'tell the cops that you're invoking your 5th amendment right to silence, and say literally nothing else.')
- sjg007 11y ago
  Why? Cause you'll be sued? I mean come on. Maybe another bot will say 'hey sue that other bot' for bad legal advice?
  - rtpg 11y ago
    I believe that legal advice is actually one of those things where liability is associated, and you can probably sue your lawyer for lying about the law to you Hence all the legal forums with "this is not legal advice"
    - a3camero 11y ago
      In Canada (which I believe is very similar to the US in this regard) lawyers generally can't contract out of their own negligence and the advice they give has to be at the standard of a competent lawyer (in the specific area of law). It doesn't have to be right or perfect but it does have to be the kind of advice you'd expect from someone who understands that area of the law. Although of course, this post isn't legal advice. The actual rules are important, far more detailed than what I wrote, and jurisdiction-specific. The reason why lawyers write "this isn't legal advice" (like I did above) is because it usually isn't and they don't want people to think it is. Although if it is, they could be liable for it and they want to reduce their effective liability by reducing the chance that someone will treat their legal advice as legal advice. Because sometimes it's not about what the law is but about what people think it is and how they react to what you've done. Google "professional negligence" for more information.
    - increduloushulk 11y ago
      I suspect the "this is not legal advice" disclaimer has more to do with the unauthorized practice of law. Depending on the state, it may be a crime, although I don't know that I've ever heard of anybody being convicted of it.
jacalata 11y ago
More like "OK, where are you exactly, what is your citizenship, what is your race?"
- eru 11y ago
  And depending on location, religion and gender. And obviously, how rich do you look?
- aw3c2 11y ago
  "USA! USA! USA!"
- theycallmemorty 11y ago
  Siri almost certainly already knows all of those things. :)
lostlogin 11y ago
Whilst the FBI are trying to get into the phone it's actively offering advice for getting off charges. Nice.
jonknee 11y ago
The answer every time (if in the US): don't talk to them. At all.
- huac 11y ago
  pet peeve: you have to say that you're invoking your right to silence, mere silence is not enough! see berghuis (2010) and salinas (2013)

My first thought: Apple should buy this company and integrate legal advice into Siri. "Hey Siri, I've just been pulled over by the police." "OK. Here are your rights:"

huac 11y ago

giving legal advice is always pretty tricky (even if that advice is 'tell the cops that you're invoking your 5th amendment right to silence, and say literally nothing else.')

sjg007 11y ago
Why? Cause you'll be sued? I mean come on. Maybe another bot will say 'hey sue that other bot' for bad legal advice?
- rtpg 11y ago
  I believe that legal advice is actually one of those things where liability is associated, and you can probably sue your lawyer for lying about the law to you Hence all the legal forums with "this is not legal advice"
  - a3camero 11y ago
    In Canada (which I believe is very similar to the US in this regard) lawyers generally can't contract out of their own negligence and the advice they give has to be at the standard of a competent lawyer (in the specific area of law). It doesn't have to be right or perfect but it does have to be the kind of advice you'd expect from someone who understands that area of the law. Although of course, this post isn't legal advice. The actual rules are important, far more detailed than what I wrote, and jurisdiction-specific. The reason why lawyers write "this isn't legal advice" (like I did above) is because it usually isn't and they don't want people to think it is. Although if it is, they could be liable for it and they want to reduce their effective liability by reducing the chance that someone will treat their legal advice as legal advice. Because sometimes it's not about what the law is but about what people think it is and how they react to what you've done. Google "professional negligence" for more information.
  - increduloushulk 11y ago
    I suspect the "this is not legal advice" disclaimer has more to do with the unauthorized practice of law. Depending on the state, it may be a crime, although I don't know that I've ever heard of anybody being convicted of it.

jacalata 11y ago

More like "OK, where are you exactly, what is your citizenship, what is your race?"

eru 11y ago
And depending on location, religion and gender. And obviously, how rich do you look?
aw3c2 11y ago
"USA! USA! USA!"
theycallmemorty 11y ago
Siri almost certainly already knows all of those things. :)

lostlogin 11y ago

Whilst the FBI are trying to get into the phone it's actively offering advice for getting off charges. Nice.

jonknee 11y ago

The answer every time (if in the US): don't talk to them. At all.

huac 11y ago
pet peeve: you have to say that you're invoking your right to silence, mere silence is not enough! see berghuis (2010) and salinas (2013)