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The same people are running the company who did then, who were responsible for setting the culture of the company, covering for employees who did unspeakable th

The same people are running the company who did then, who were responsible for setting the culture of the company, covering for employees who did unspeakable things (worse than what I've said here), and pretty much instructing employees to lie to customers. Also, all the people who quit Linode and ran to this coast after I left have kept me very apprised of what working at Linode is like TODAY. I still communicate with your colleagues quite regularly, too. It is important to reiterate here, as I have before, that I wish Linode no ill will. I'm becoming more comfortable with calling spades spades, but I do not wish Linode to fail. I actually hope a lot of this stuff can be fixed, whatever that entails, but I have a serious gripe with some events that have transpired since 2011, from security to personal. If Linode would start being a little more honest about their gaping security troubles, and not rely upon people like me and Tim who actually know the truth to just shut up about it (I'm getting braver as Tim does, and I appreciate how willing he is to not let PagerDuty be tossed around by Linode's deceit), I'd be a bit happier. We're crossing into knowingly compromising the safety of the Internet, PII, and a number of production infrastructures that still run on Linode in some cases, and I do care about that. And again, that tone of deceit is set from the top.

dang 11y ago
> You know that. Don't be disingenuous. > And you know it. That's unduly personal. Please remain civil.
- jsmthrowaway 11y ago
  I mean, I was responding to a personal comment that directly and personally told me I don't "get" things (and which included what can be reasonably interpreted as a veiled threat by mentioning my departure year from a throwaway account, to make clear that I'm a known quantity in the equation). I'm really trying, here, Dan. We've talked about this over e-mail, but it's getting really tough to contribute here with arbitrary boundaries that are inconsistently enforced, and that a penalty remains on my account for some comment I made in the past that doesn't even matter any more. I bit my tongue on you detaching this subthread because I've learned that moderation is opaque and largely not welcome to outside opinion, but I agree with Ryan up there and suspect you detached the thread to hide where I went with it. I'm fine with that (honest). Just wish you'd say that. I've edited, regardless. Is that better?
  - dang 11y ago
    Yes, that's much better. You took out the personal attack, which was all that was needed. I don't have the least opinion about Linode or "where [you] went with it". My concern is with civility on Hacker News. That's not an arbitrary line, though I'd never claim we make every call correctly. The GP seemed to me merely to be saying that the company had changed since you left. That doesn't seem personal, nor a threat, but perhaps there are subtleties I'm missing.

dang 11y ago

> You know that. Don't be disingenuous. > And you know it. That's unduly personal. Please remain civil.

jsmthrowaway 11y ago
I mean, I was responding to a personal comment that directly and personally told me I don't "get" things (and which included what can be reasonably interpreted as a veiled threat by mentioning my departure year from a throwaway account, to make clear that I'm a known quantity in the equation). I'm really trying, here, Dan. We've talked about this over e-mail, but it's getting really tough to contribute here with arbitrary boundaries that are inconsistently enforced, and that a penalty remains on my account for some comment I made in the past that doesn't even matter any more. I bit my tongue on you detaching this subthread because I've learned that moderation is opaque and largely not welcome to outside opinion, but I agree with Ryan up there and suspect you detached the thread to hide where I went with it. I'm fine with that (honest). Just wish you'd say that. I've edited, regardless. Is that better?
- dang 11y ago
  Yes, that's much better. You took out the personal attack, which was all that was needed. I don't have the least opinion about Linode or "where [you] went with it". My concern is with civility on Hacker News. That's not an arbitrary line, though I'd never claim we make every call correctly. The GP seemed to me merely to be saying that the company had changed since you left. That doesn't seem personal, nor a threat, but perhaps there are subtleties I'm missing.