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> You're not including everything. And you're not including the first words of each bullet point, which clearly ARE illegal here. - disclosing state secrets,
by Mikeb85 11y ago
> You're not including everything.
And you're not including the first words of each bullet point, which clearly ARE illegal here.
- disclosing state secrets, endangering national security, or harming national honor and interests
Illegal, possibly illegal, and while we don't have a concept of national 'honor', going against national interests can be illegal, depending on context.
- inciting ethnic hatred or ethnic discrimination, undermining national unity, or going against ethnic customs and habits
Even the second point (inciting ethnic discrimination) is contrary to our hate speech laws, and the first point definitely is.
- spreading rumors, disturbing social order, or undermining social stability
I didn't include this because it's a maybe, but unfounded rumours are often considered slander, and disturbing social order is often considered hate speech (though not always).
- insulting or slandering others, infringing upon the legitimate rights of others
Illegal.
> Note that all of these are vague, intentionally vague at that. Whether or not you violated these rules is entirely up to the interpretation of the CCP.
You're not familiar with 'common law', are you? Canada's law system (I assume the same holds true for other countries who adopted Britain's system of laws) isn't set in stone, are quite a bit is left to interpretation. It's not particularly unusual.
For instance, our last government used an anti-terrorism law to try strip the citizenship of and deport someone who was born in Canada, on the basis that he 'could' be eligible for citizenship in a country he's never stepped foot in. Granted he was convicted of a crime, but goes to show that, even in Canada laws can be interpreted rather broadly.
- refurb 11y agoI think you missed my point. I was highlighting the parts you left out. You said "Point #3 is illegal in Canada" when in fact, it isn't. Only part of it is. I'm familiar with common law and I wouldn't compare common law in Canada will the law in China.
- Mikeb85 11y agoI left it out? I put a brief rundown of the bullet points in 1 line between parentheses. Fact remains, we're shitting on China for banning things that are already banned in many non-totalitarian countries.
- jacobolus 11y ago“Insulting others” is illegal in Canada? Edit: “Insult” and “slander” are two entirely different things. To insult is to speak disrespectfully or abusively about someone. An insult would be something like “Donald Trump is an asshole.” To slander is to make false defamatory statements about someone, e.g. “I saw Donald Trump kick a puppy.”
- Mikeb85 11y agoSlander is, yes. If you can prove its truthful it's OK, if it's provably false it's illegal, and you can take the offending party to court. Edit - publicly insulting someone often falls into slander, depending on what was said. In Canada all charges are pressed by the crown, so to a certain degree they decide what's what. In general, if there's the possibility of damages arising from the insults, it can be prosecuted. Edit2 - here's an interesting one for you: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/insulting-police-online-banned-by-granby-que-bylaw-1.3061023 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/insulting-police-onli...