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We are talking about relative security here. Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere? Let me remind you,

by xaduha 11y ago

We are talking about relative security here. Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere? Let me remind you, than if I'm not mistaken in US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant. Let's assume that you keep your stuff just on your own PC at home, then that at least would require a warrant.

gruez 11y ago
>Let me remind you, than if I'm not mistaken in US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant not if it has a password
542458 11y ago
> Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere? I think it certainly could be and probably is. Apple seems to be taking phone security pretty darn seriously with combined hardware/software approaches. Furthermore, my servers sit in a datacenter or my apartment that I rely on somebody else to look after. Really though, you could probably bribe/threaten/warrant your way into those places easily enough and just pull RAM/HDDs to your heart's content. On the flip side, my phone stays in my pocket or next to my bed. If you want my phone, you have to arrest me/steal it from me/whatever. > US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant During a lawful arrest, and the search has to be documented and relevant to the arrest. Furthermore, that assumes that they know my password (Which I'm not currently obligated to give to them).
tamana 11y ago
The San Bernardino iPhone was secure longer than its owner was alive. Essentially perfect.
- xaduha 11y ago
  So that's one model out of many. With a specific version of the software. What about other smartphones? There's no guarantee it still going to be secure in the future and there's no guarantee that it was secure in the past.

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We are talking about relative security here. Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere? Let me remind you,

by xaduha 11y ago

gruez 11y ago
>Let me remind you, than if I'm not mistaken in US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant not if it has a password
542458 11y ago
> Do you really think that keeping stuff on your phone is more secure than keeping it elsewhere? I think it certainly could be and probably is. Apple seems to be taking phone security pretty darn seriously with combined hardware/software approaches. Furthermore, my servers sit in a datacenter or my apartment that I rely on somebody else to look after. Really though, you could probably bribe/threaten/warrant your way into those places easily enough and just pull RAM/HDDs to your heart's content. On the flip side, my phone stays in my pocket or next to my bed. If you want my phone, you have to arrest me/steal it from me/whatever. > US law enforcement can search your phone without any sort of warrant During a lawful arrest, and the search has to be documented and relevant to the arrest. Furthermore, that assumes that they know my password (Which I'm not currently obligated to give to them).
tamana 11y ago
The San Bernardino iPhone was secure longer than its owner was alive. Essentially perfect.
- xaduha 11y ago
  So that's one model out of many. With a specific version of the software. What about other smartphones? There's no guarantee it still going to be secure in the future and there's no guarantee that it was secure in the past.