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Well, ever since the change of government China has been closing back on itself again and censorship has been stronger and stronger. It's not surprising and tel

by song 11y ago

Well, ever since the change of government China has been closing back on itself again and censorship has been stronger and stronger. It's not surprising and tells me I made the right choice to leave the country in 2013...

JPKab 11y ago
Are you a Chinese national? Just wondering what your thoughts on the reasons for this move are.
- suryon 11y ago
  I was told that the current president is a real traditionalist and that he "secretly / openly" detest the capitalism.
- justaman 11y ago
  It seems that the wealthiest Chinese are quickly leaving China for the US. I believe that this will have negative impacts on their long term growth.
  - logfromblammo 11y ago
    I always wondered why the US has never seemed all that concerned with their trade deficit with China. Imports and paid for with exports, after all. It turns out that the US has been playing a long game. America imports cargo containers filled with manufactured goods, and exports one-way, first-class plane tickets to America (and Vancouver), for use by the Chinese nouveaux-riches. Brilliant. Devious and brilliant. The dollars never need to be exchanged into yuan, because they come back inside immigration-curious pockets. Export the factory; import the tycoon carrying the factory profits. And if China tries to stop it in the usual way, the brain drain only worsens. It's more like a brain siphoning. But taking the foil hat off, it's probably just entirely accidental. Not that the US wouldn't milk it for maximum benefit anyway, but it's just too much like the outcome of a cursed monkey's paw wish to have been planned that way.
- song 11y ago
  No I'm not, I've lived in China for 6 years, 1 year near Wuhan and 5 years in Shanghai and came there the first time in 2002. When I first came there, China was gradually opening itself, things were becoming more free and people were very optimistic. If you talked to Taxi drivers, waiters or basically any people in the street, they were very optimistic and thought that the future was going to be great. Overtime this optimism has changed, when I would talk to taxi drivers, they would be bitter, thinking that the growth only really profited the rich and they had been left behind. It was a very different feelings... Surprisingly, upper class Chines that I would talk to were also wary about the changes of the government and a lot of them were thinking of finding ways to leave China (I have a friend who went to Canada to give birth to her child for this very reason).

by song 11y ago

JPKab 11y ago

Are you a Chinese national? Just wondering what your thoughts on the reasons for this move are.

suryon 11y ago
I was told that the current president is a real traditionalist and that he "secretly / openly" detest the capitalism.
justaman 11y ago
It seems that the wealthiest Chinese are quickly leaving China for the US. I believe that this will have negative impacts on their long term growth.
- logfromblammo 11y ago
  I always wondered why the US has never seemed all that concerned with their trade deficit with China. Imports and paid for with exports, after all. It turns out that the US has been playing a long game. America imports cargo containers filled with manufactured goods, and exports one-way, first-class plane tickets to America (and Vancouver), for use by the Chinese nouveaux-riches. Brilliant. Devious and brilliant. The dollars never need to be exchanged into yuan, because they come back inside immigration-curious pockets. Export the factory; import the tycoon carrying the factory profits. And if China tries to stop it in the usual way, the brain drain only worsens. It's more like a brain siphoning. But taking the foil hat off, it's probably just entirely accidental. Not that the US wouldn't milk it for maximum benefit anyway, but it's just too much like the outcome of a cursed monkey's paw wish to have been planned that way.
song 11y ago
No I'm not, I've lived in China for 6 years, 1 year near Wuhan and 5 years in Shanghai and came there the first time in 2002. When I first came there, China was gradually opening itself, things were becoming more free and people were very optimistic. If you talked to Taxi drivers, waiters or basically any people in the street, they were very optimistic and thought that the future was going to be great. Overtime this optimism has changed, when I would talk to taxi drivers, they would be bitter, thinking that the growth only really profited the rich and they had been left behind. It was a very different feelings... Surprisingly, upper class Chines that I would talk to were also wary about the changes of the government and a lot of them were thinking of finding ways to leave China (I have a friend who went to Canada to give birth to her child for this very reason).