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I expect the salesperson to be able to understand my situation, what I'm looking for, and tell me all my available options, and the benefits/drawbacks of each.

by lpsz 11y ago

I expect the salesperson to be able to understand my situation, what I'm looking for, and tell me all my available options, and the benefits/drawbacks of each. If so, it sounds like insurance salespeople are similar to tax or financial advisors, and regulation forces them to read through and familiarize themselves with all of the options. Fair enough. Just wish the system itself was revamped, pricing schemes simplified, and information made more accessible, to make even this unnecessary.

VLM 11y ago
> Just wish the system itself was revamped, pricing schemes simplified, and information made more accessible, to make even this unnecessary. One mans bug is another mans profit. So that's not happening.
mbesto 11y ago
Except, anyone in America who doesn't get insurance through work has to assess all of the benefits/drawbacks of each plan without the help of a broker today. So the point is kind of moot. I think the bigger implications are that if I buy insurance, I can at least go into a database and look up to see if a broker is licensed. If a broker's information is stored in a database somewhere, it'd be much easier to seek out the bad actor for punitive damages. It also provides some fear on the broker side that if their information is stored somewhere that they are somewhat trackable.
jeffwass 11y ago
The other thing is that it gives the customer protection. Ie, customer has some sort of legal recourse (I think) if they've been mis-sold insurance from a salesperson, who was required to be licensed and show basic competency and ethics.
x0x0 11y ago
Thank Obama. That's one of the biggest benefits of the Obamacare exchange: when you look at a gold/silver/bronze plan, there's a legally enforced minimum level of benefits so you don't have to read a 20 page plan wondering what the gotcha is. You can still get bit by narrow vs wide networks, but it's an order of magnitude easier to comparison shop.
- brianwawok 11y ago
  Don't worry still gotchas. Phone rep will say on vs off marketplace plans are the same. Phone rep and website say the doctors you want to use like your midwife are covered on marketplace plan. Then you give birth and insurance says the doctor is 100% covered but the room you gave birth in was 0% covered (despite it being the only room said doctor can give birth in), and you get a 13k bill from the hospital for having a baby despite having a "gold" insurance plan. Fuck you Anthem and the horse you rode in on. I hope you all choke on your breakfast.
- mattmcknight 11y ago
  Yeah, it was pretty easy to find that none of the plans on offer covered any of my preferred providers and all were more expensive than the open market coverage for me. However, getting the formularies for each plan and comparing them was very difficult.

by lpsz 11y ago

VLM 11y ago

> Just wish the system itself was revamped, pricing schemes simplified, and information made more accessible, to make even this unnecessary. One mans bug is another mans profit. So that's not happening.

mbesto 11y ago

Except, anyone in America who doesn't get insurance through work has to assess all of the benefits/drawbacks of each plan without the help of a broker today. So the point is kind of moot. I think the bigger implications are that if I buy insurance, I can at least go into a database and look up to see if a broker is licensed. If a broker's information is stored in a database somewhere, it'd be much easier to seek out the bad actor for punitive damages. It also provides some fear on the broker side that if their information is stored somewhere that they are somewhat trackable.

jeffwass 11y ago

The other thing is that it gives the customer protection. Ie, customer has some sort of legal recourse (I think) if they've been mis-sold insurance from a salesperson, who was required to be licensed and show basic competency and ethics.

x0x0 11y ago

Thank Obama. That's one of the biggest benefits of the Obamacare exchange: when you look at a gold/silver/bronze plan, there's a legally enforced minimum level of benefits so you don't have to read a 20 page plan wondering what the gotcha is. You can still get bit by narrow vs wide networks, but it's an order of magnitude easier to comparison shop.

brianwawok 11y ago
Don't worry still gotchas. Phone rep will say on vs off marketplace plans are the same. Phone rep and website say the doctors you want to use like your midwife are covered on marketplace plan. Then you give birth and insurance says the doctor is 100% covered but the room you gave birth in was 0% covered (despite it being the only room said doctor can give birth in), and you get a 13k bill from the hospital for having a baby despite having a "gold" insurance plan. Fuck you Anthem and the horse you rode in on. I hope you all choke on your breakfast.
mattmcknight 11y ago
Yeah, it was pretty easy to find that none of the plans on offer covered any of my preferred providers and all were more expensive than the open market coverage for me. However, getting the formularies for each plan and comparing them was very difficult.