If the person with whom you are debating is ex-LEO, ex-military or a conservative, you can easily compare this erosion of the 4th amendment to the erosion of th

If the person with whom you are debating is ex-LEO, ex-military or a conservative, you can easily compare this erosion of the 4th amendment to the erosion of the 2nd amendment. Both the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendment were designed to protect the American people against abuse of power by the government. Supporting the 2nd but not the 4th, therefore, makes little sense. The argument boils down to "if your family members were killed in San Bernardino, you would not support Apple". The rebuttal is that first we should firearms because that is what the SB shooters used to actually commit the crime. Encryption never directly killed anyone.