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I think they have already done this, but the phone at the center of the current controversy had not been updated to the new version of iOS. (In the new version,

I think they have already done this, but the phone at the center of the current controversy had not been updated to the new version of iOS. (In the new version, in order to update the OS on a locked phone you need to enter your passcode). Edit: No, apparently this is wrong. I got it from https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/02/18/preliminary-thoughts-on-the-apple-iphone-order-in-the-san-bernardino-case-part-1/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201... , but that article has since been updated.

ubernostrum 11y ago
From TFA: The California case, in contrast, involves a device running iOS 9. The data that was previously accessible while a phone was locked ceased to be so as of the release of iOS 8, when Apple started securing it with encryption tied to the passcode, rather than the hardware ID of the device. FaceTime, for instance, has been encrypted since 2010, and iMessages since 2011. So Apple is unable to extract any data including iMessages from the device because all of that data is encrypted. This is the only reason that the FBI now wants Apple to weaken its security so that it can brute-force the passcode. Because the data cannot be read unless the passcode is entered properly.
- pyre 11y ago
  They want Apple to disable limitations that disallow them from brute-forcing the passcode. This isn't even possible (supposedly) on newer A7-based devices that have security hardware (i.e. the "secure enclave").
  - SAI_Peregrinus 11y ago
    I'd say it's certainly possible, just difficult. Considering what Chris Tarnovsky has done as a hobbyist (with a focused ion beam workstation) to hack several TPM and smart card chips and get their secrets out the FBI has to be incompetent not to be able to do the same thing to Apple's hardware. Or this is just a fishing expedition because doing that is difficult and doesn't give them any more power.
  - ubernostrum 11y ago
    Comment I was replying to was talking about software, not hardware, and said (quote): the phone at the center of the current controversy had not been updated to the new version of iOS If the phone was on iOS 9, as the article claims, then... that's the latest version of iOS.

ubernostrum 11y ago

From TFA: The California case, in contrast, involves a device running iOS 9. The data that was previously accessible while a phone was locked ceased to be so as of the release of iOS 8, when Apple started securing it with encryption tied to the passcode, rather than the hardware ID of the device. FaceTime, for instance, has been encrypted since 2010, and iMessages since 2011. So Apple is unable to extract any data including iMessages from the device because all of that data is encrypted. This is the only reason that the FBI now wants Apple to weaken its security so that it can brute-force the passcode. Because the data cannot be read unless the passcode is entered properly.

pyre 11y ago
They want Apple to disable limitations that disallow them from brute-forcing the passcode. This isn't even possible (supposedly) on newer A7-based devices that have security hardware (i.e. the "secure enclave").
- SAI_Peregrinus 11y ago
  I'd say it's certainly possible, just difficult. Considering what Chris Tarnovsky has done as a hobbyist (with a focused ion beam workstation) to hack several TPM and smart card chips and get their secrets out the FBI has to be incompetent not to be able to do the same thing to Apple's hardware. Or this is just a fishing expedition because doing that is difficult and doesn't give them any more power.
- ubernostrum 11y ago
  Comment I was replying to was talking about software, not hardware, and said (quote): the phone at the center of the current controversy had not been updated to the new version of iOS If the phone was on iOS 9, as the article claims, then... that's the latest version of iOS.