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Corporations aren't people. They're groups of people. Why is it I lose my right to speak if I'm in a group? In that respect, what makes corporations differen
by gozur88 11y ago
Corporations aren't people. They're groups of people.
Why is it I lose my right to speak if I'm in a group? In that respect, what makes corporations different from unions or advocacy groups like Greenpeace?
- uxp 11y agoYou shouldn't lose your right to anything when you're in a group, but you shouldn't have more rights solely because you're in a group. The group should have rights, You should have rights, and everyone else should have rights. There's a distinction there.
- specialist 11y agoyou shouldn't have more rights solely because you're in a group. So no more collective bargaining?
- gozur88 11y agoWhat rights do I have as part of a corporation that I don't have as an individual?
- uxp 11y agoYou do not have any rights as part of a corporation that you do not already have as an individual. That is the distinction. The corporation has rights, of which you can enact on behalf of the corporation, that you cannot enact on your own. Limits on campaign contributions is one such right. Because you carry in your wallet a card that declares you a member of a corporation, you are not granted any rights, personally.
- bmelton 11y agoI think you're radically mistaken on how corporate contributions work. Near as I can find, corporations don't have carte blanche to give unlimited money to an individual campaign. In fact, corporations cannot give any money to an individual candidate's campaign. Corporations can give money to Political Action Committees, but are limited by amount to the same as real people. Corporations can give money to SuperPACs, but so can real people. http://www.fec.gov/info/contriblimitschart1516.pdf http://www.fec.gov/info/contriblimitschart1516.pdf http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml If I am wrong, I welcome corrections, but I think you're off on what corporations can and cannot do.
- dragonwriter 11y ago> Why is it I lose my right to speak if I'm in a group? No one has suggested that you should. People have suggested that the corporation acting as such, including through its paid agents should not have the same rights as natural persons, acting alone or collectively, but that various classes of corporations should have constraints appropriate to their class. One of the many reasons offered for this is that corporations are creations of government granted the use of the special form and legal fiction of personhood adn subsidized with various benefits with the purpose of achieving public benefit. > In that respect, what makes corporations different from unions or advocacy groups like Greenpeace? Unions and advocacy groups quite often are corporations. "Unions" and "advocacy groups" are descriptions of functions, "corporation" is a description of legal structure.
- 13thLetter 11y ago> but that various classes of corporations should have constraints appropriate to their class. Who will decide what class a corporation falls into? I get the uneasy feeling that, practically speaking, corporations expressing certain approved political opinions or supporting approved political candidates will have the least constraints.