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(author here). I pushed out a promotion today to let users know about the new version before auto-updating everyone. It breaks backward compatibility with apple
by gnachman 11y ago
(author here). I pushed out a promotion today to let users know about the new version before auto-updating everyone. It breaks backward compatibility with applescript, so it'll be a rough upgrade for some folks.
I'd love to hear any thoughts on how to make this less painful.
My first experiment with in-app advertising (promoting the beta version through a popup dialog) has gone well, with a 31% click-through rate, and of those 25% downloaded the beta.
- maratc 11y agoGeorge, huge thanks for your work. Please consider putting iTerm2 on the App Store for a couple of bucks (in addition to providing it for free on your site).
- deckiedan 11y agoI think the App Store Sandbox would restrict iTerm's ability to be useful. (Can only access files it has created, or via a standard OSX file open dialog, for instance.)
- pheoki 11y agoITerm 2 is my absolute favourite piece of software I've ever used. It's a delight to work with. Thank you so much for your work!
- namtrac 11y agoThis is the only app I miss on Linux, kudos!
- jarpineh 11y agoI've been on 2.9 series for few months now, since this appeared on HN, so sadly nothing new here... [1] I had such a great time getting to know these features then. I haven't noticed any instabilities, and new features have been working great. I've yet to learn to use shell integration (muscle memory is a hard thing to forget), but using full screen shell with insivible tabs and the "quake shell" that's similarly full screen has made a really big difference for the better. Syncing profile settings between computers could work without user action. Now I got automatic import and export when I restart iTerm. Changes I make on one machine tend to stay there, till I remember to restart, and by then I usually have changed something else on the other machine. So thank you very much for the most useful software on my mac! I have to get get Paypal for donation. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9880694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9880694
- Gratsby 11y agoI am an iTerm2 user. I think it's a fantastic product. That being said, if I see a pop-up dialog with an advertisement coming from my terminal application, I am going to uninstall it immediately and never think twice about it again. I thought iterm was open source.
- treerex 11y agoIt is. The advert was to notify you that the iTerm 3 beta is available and that it has some cool features. It did not ask for donations. It was purely informational.
- JustinAiken 11y agoThanks for the great app! Setting marks in the new beta has saved me hours of flipping back and forth to see when a command finishes!
- nemild 11y agoGeorge, longtime iTerm 2 user here - thanks for all your hard work; I can't count how many hours of productivity I've saved by using iTerm. I've given a donation in the past - and anyone else interested can see the big donate button on the site.
- seanp2k2 11y agoOn donations, it's kind of ridiculous that the PayPal mobile checkout doesn't support 2FA: Your Security Key can't be used to log in here. But, you can still complete your purchase with PayPal by checking out on your computer. It also looks like it was designed in 2004 and never touched again. This same issue affects the Cydia store, and the only workaround there is to disable 2FA.
- kennydude 11y agoPayPal and ridiculous sounds about right
- ddon 11y agoAnd add Bitcoin donation as well!
- aduitsis 11y agoHello George, many many thanks for all the hard work you've put in. Yours is hands down the most heavily used application many people's macs. Is it possible to try the beta while still having around the normal version? Is the configuration compatible between the two? Again, thanks!
- gnachman 11y agoYou can have both installed and even running at the same time. Applescript might get confused about which app to talk to, in which case you need to do `tell application "/path/to/iTerm.app"` to make it unabiguous.
- qwyxzy 11y agoThanks for making a great app. Where's the place I can report issues in the beta version? I noticed a small graphical issue with the cursor when using a certain font.
- gnachman 11y agohttps://iterm2.com/bugs https://iterm2.com/bugs
- benjah 11y agoThis looks great. Will applescript support be coming back? I'm using consular iterm to start and stop projects. https://github.com/achiu/consular-iterm https://github.com/achiu/consular-iterm Can anyone recommend another macro tool that can set up a bunch of processes running in tabs?
- TomAnthony 11y agoHey - I wrote one for iTerm called iTermocil: https://github.com/TomAnthony/itermocil https://github.com/TomAnthony/itermocil Yiu can use teamocil style files to configures panes/tabs and starting commands for each pane. Let me know how you find it! :)
- gnachman 11y agoApplescript support is improved, not removed, but incompatibly. https://iterm2.com/applescript.html https://iterm2.com/applescript.html
- quaunaut 11y agoApplescript is supported, just in a more consistent way now. This is the new syntax: https://iterm2.com/applescript.html https://iterm2.com/applescript.html Edit: I'm not the developer! I'm just a fan.
- benjah 11y agoAwesome and thanks for the great work!!
- saidajigumi 11y agoFWIW, I've been running the dev builds for ages now (currently on 2.9.2015111), and it wasn't a big deal to update my (few) scripts. The new AppleScript dictionary is definitely a bit better, and simplified my scripts.
- withjive 11y agoWhat you are looking for sounds a lot like TMUX + Bash (scripted tmux setup). Then you can run that inside of iTerm. Tmux supports tabs and dynamic splits nicely via ncurses. Also check out tmux ressurect [1] for saving tmux session persistence. [1] https://github.com/tmux-plugins/tmux-resurrect https://github.com/tmux-plugins/tmux-resurrect
- tomp 11y agoHi! Thanks for the good work! If you ever accept feature requests, I'm annoyed when I have multiple iTerm2 windows opened on another desktop, and I swipe to that desktop. I have the "focus follows mouse" feature enabled, but in the situation above, sometimes it's not the window under the mouse that gets the focus. I realize however that this might be a hard-to-solve problem (because of how the OS works)...
- gnachman 11y agoYeah, sounds like an OS bug, but file an issue at https://iterm2.com/bugs https://iterm2.com/bugs.
- gregingelmo 11y agoYou know iTerm is a tool I use so often that I've taken its existence for granted. Thank you for all your hard work over the years. You've made a beautiful piece of software.
- javajosh 11y agoI use iterm all day, everyday. Thank you!
- seanp2k2 11y agoI also use iTerm most of the day for most of the work week. It makes my life just a little bit better. Thanks!
- eibrahim 11y agoI agree. That's why I donated to the project :)
- tracker1 11y agoAgreed... It's a really nice, smooth experience... ConEmu is close, but not quite the same in Windows, and I haven't seen anything that even compares in Linux.
- eenstok 11y agoI literally just made an account on here since I never normally comment just to say thank you to you for all your work on iTerm. I'm especially happy about the issue I was having with iTerm2 windows not resizing correctly but the beta seems to have changed this to work flawlessly, it used to not fit correctly to the borders of the screen height nor width, but it works great now. So thank you once again.
- suprfnk 11y agoHey, that's actually in version 2 as well! It frustrated me too, even made a checkout of the source to fix it myself, and then found that it's in the advanced options. Go to preferences -> advanced and all the way to the bottom there is "Terminal windows resize smoothly.". Set that to yes, and it will resize to the edges of the screen.
- scelerat 11y agoiTerm 2 is great software. Can't wait to try version 3.
- ld00d 11y agoI'm a 25%er! Thanks for the great work!
- mikebo 11y agoLove iTerm. If you guys ever integrated with 1Password I would be in heaven!
- gnachman 11y agohttps://github.com/ravenac95/sudolikeaboss https://github.com/ravenac95/sudolikeaboss
- welly 11y agoIf that worked with dashlane, I'd could die a happy man.
- thomasfr 11y agoWhen i read "Password Manager" on the iterm2 V3 announcement page i hoped to read about 1Password integration! PLEASE PLEASE George Nachman - i would donate (again) for iTerm2! :)
- colechristensen 11y agoI was actually just very mildly annoyed by this in-app promotion. (trying to convey the absolute minimum amount of annoyance while still being annoyed) While I was typing it popped up and opened a browser when I hit enter, entirely without me seeing more than a flash of the ad.
- x0 11y agoThanks for all your hard work! iTerm2 is bar none, my absolute favourite program. No other OS has a terminal this good.
- seanzieapples 11y agoLike everybody else I just wanted to say thanks! I just downloaded the beta and it looks great!
- fserb 11y agoAny chance that this new beta has support for borderless windows? I still use a forked version that doesn't have border.
- tomphoolery 11y ago(user here). Thank you, so much, for creating iTerm2 and keeping it going all these years. iTerm is now my only development environment, I also use the shell for email, HipChat, IM and of course IRC. I can stay in the shell pretty much all day. It's straightforward, easy to customize, and has built-in support for tmux. What more could I ask for? :)
- trcollinson 11y agoIf you don't mind me asking, what do you use for all of those applications in your terminal? I love to know what other people use for email, irc, etc.
- kgthegreat 11y agoemacs
- quesera 11y agomutt, weechat, bitlbee. My world would be complete, if only Firefox and Xcode were ncurses applications. :)
- a-b 11y ago+ inline images in iTerm2 v3 ;)
- skewart 11y agoI just wanted to add to the line of replies saying thanks for your hard work on iTerm2. I use it every day. Thank you for making it. It's awesome.
- wantreprenr007 11y agoiTerm2 is the most beautiful, customizable and usable OS X terminal replacement in the history of everything. Full stop. Go2shell also makes iTerm2 slightly even better, just don't mistype it without that 's'. Sadly, iTerm2 doesn't make coffee or answer email, and for these couple of trivial, unrealistic failings I'm anonymously internet outraged with a cohort petition of at least 235k signatures so far to have your head boiled in stew for Christmas dinner served with canapés, yorkshire pudding and choclate creme pie. Yum. Can't wait. :-) Leaping to somewhat serious now: another project support stream is actually cool schwag: stickers, t-shirts, mugs, hats, tech bits, so forth.. Some limited edition stuff. Mahalo, Some random weirdo
- skierscott 11y ago> Go2shell also makes iTerm2 slightly even better, just don't mistype it without that 's'. There's also OS X's "cdf" command to cd to the currently open Finder window (I think of "cdf" as shorthand for "cd to finder")
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- gnachman 11y agoNot the greatest, but I did this a few years ago… http://www.zazzle.com/iTerm2 http://www.zazzle.com/iTerm2
- wantreprenr007 11y agoHey nice, it's a start. <unsolicited public advice without listening or asking questions because im a git> Sales is two things: good product and having/inventing a plausible/worthwhile excuse to mention it. No one has to be an artist (the best I can do is about the 2nd grade level: stick figures and writing which gradually changes size and slants to one side.). There are plenty of really good designers in most major metros whom will work for some % of gross, credit and/or fee... Dribbble, 99designs, sortfolio, elance, odesk, craigslist, on and on. See what folks can come up with and do small test runs to see if it's worth stocking (Amazon fulfillment will hold stock for cheap). Zazzle typically makes bank at a high price-point and leaves you with a pittance %. Indie graphics shops can usually make quality shirts at various volumes for super cheap, some will drop ship directly to customers and others can send to Amazon Fulfillment and let Amazon handle it. Also for shwag concepts, it's possible to crowdsource ideas & voting from a massive community (creds on actual product)... It's a plus for at least 3 reasons. Promoting: vlogging YT, podcast interviewing people, conference and meetups, so on... Always bring more value and humanity to an event or forum than just pitching sales robot, that's what people respond to usually </unsolicited public advice without listening or asking questions because im a git>
- thomasfr 11y agoThank you for your hard and continuous work on iTerm2! It is one of the two things i install very first on my mac. Thank you
- venachescu 11y agoThose are pretty amazing click/follow through rates, and I'm not surprised because they're 100% deserved. This is a great app clearly made with care and dedication, thanks for all your hard work!
- msoad 11y agoThank you for all the work. Finding a specific setting in the settings panels is sometimes hard. I wish you could add search for setting items sometime in future.
- ben174 11y agoiTerm is amazing. But it's incredible how many people I see that have the old (unsupported) iTerm installed. Presumably having heard that 'iTerm is da bomb' and not realizing they were referring iTerm2. The old iTerm is way inferior to OSX's Terminal.app, so it kinda sucks seeing these people crippling themselves without even knowing it.
- username223 11y ago> I pushed out a promotion today... auto-updating everyone... My first experiment with in-app advertising... Do not go down that dark road.
- krylon 11y agoI don't remember what made me use iTerm in the first place. I think I didn't find out how to use tabs in Apple's terminal right away, but now I have routinely 10-12 tabs open, and being able to save and restore the arrangement is very, very convenient. Thank you very much for the good work!!!
- ghshephard 11y agoIn terms of hours spent in an application, only Chrome and Tweetbot exceed how many hours each year I live inside iTerm2+tmux. In terms of what contributes to my ability to get my job done - and just sheer joy at using software that is rock solid, and integrates well with the tools that I use - there is nothing even close to iTerm2 - it's the single reason why I couldn't even consider using an operating system other than OS X. I'm embarrassed to admit it's been about 5+ years since I last made a donation, which I'm fixing right now. Thanks so much for iTerm2 - it's made my life better.
- Zarel 11y agoIf you're interested in the regressions iTerm2 has compared to Terminal.app, the two I've noticed are: - Terminal.app will focus the tab triggering "prompt before closing if there are jobs running besides" and name the job that's running. iTerm2 always ask "Quit iTerm2?" and leave you to hunt down which tab is preventing it from being closed. - Triple-clicking in Terminal.app will select from the previous \n to the next \n (i.e. it will select multiple lines if the lines are wrapped), while triple-clicking in iTerm2 will select only that line. Screenshot: http://d.pr/i/1eeca/4bWrRR3r http://d.pr/i/1eeca/4bWrRR3r Top: Terminal.app, bottom: iTerm2. This technically isn't a "regression", but I prefer the Terminal.app behavior so it'd be nice if there was at least a toggle.
- nkouevda 11y ago> Triple-clicking in Terminal.app will select from the previous \n to the next \n (i.e. it will select multiple lines if the lines are wrapped), while triple-clicking in iTerm2 will select only that line. In iTerm2, toggle "Triple-click selects full wrapped lines" in the Pointer tab in Preferences.
- Zarel 11y agoMan, and I thought I had scoured all of the Preferences, too. Thanks!
- j45 11y agoThank you for all your hard work and dedication to making a difference and adding value in all your users lives. This new version merits another donation. The stability of the current version is excellent.
- FlyingSnake 11y agoGeorge, iTerm2 has made my life much better. Thanks a lot for your immense contribution to developer productivity!
- panamafrank 11y agoI did try ITerm2 out for a long time but I found it dramatically reduced the battery life of (newish) macbook, I'd get perhaps 2 hours less per charge, as a result i've switched back to Terminal and using MouseTerm for scrolling in vim. Have you looked into ITerms' performance in comparison to Terminal?
- DonHopkins 11y agoMaybe it's because you're getting so much more work done! ;)
- ptibbetts 11y agoThank you for all your hard work on this, this new version looks and performs so much better than the previous one
- tHEbIgtHEb20 11y agoI'm ever a lurker here on HN, but I have to tell just how amazing it is that something you made affected the lives of so many people. The fact is, iTerm is arguably the most dependable piece of software on my computer and has been since I ever got a mac. So props to you!