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US company views China a good to have, but not live or death market. Native Chinese company does not. it's the vital difference that matters. Take Google for e

by wangii 11y ago

US company views China a good to have, but not live or death market. Native Chinese company does not. it's the vital difference that matters. Take Google for example. will it break the copyright law to provide MP3 download for its own survival in USA? I bet yes. But in China, it won't. It's not an issue of morality, or suppression of Chinese Community Party. Amazon VS. Alibaba. Jack Ma personally visited clients to seal deals, would Jeff Bezos do the same to his Chinese clients? I don't think so. MSN VS. QQ. In 2005/6, 10m+ Chinese MSN users were assaulted by a social engineering hack. It only took 6 months for MS to recognised the issue. Tencent normally reacts in 48 hours. Twitter VS. Sina Weibo. When Sina decided to do Weibo, it was a full scale operation with so many functions Chinese users loved that even if Twitter was allowed in Chinese market, it would lose in weeks. when you are playing a market game in China, facing competitors whose lives are in stake, the result is obvious. Your competitors would do anything to survive, including breaking laws, lobbying/bribing govt./officers.

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
You are dead right. Bribes that are simply a part of the game in China are a punishable offence in the West. Another reason foreign social networks tend to be blocked in China: if someone makes a post on Weibo or Renren that the party doesn't like, they can simply have it removed without fanfare...along with the poster...
- wangii 11y ago
  My point is less about bribe or lobbying. It's about the mentality. For native Chinese company, the stake is so high that when facing overwhelmingly foreign opportunists they are willing to do anything to survive, faster reaction to users/customers, product adjustment to local users, more marketing spending, wage PR war with naive nationalism, you name it. Bribing and politics are really tip of the iceberg.

by wangii 11y ago

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago

You are dead right. Bribes that are simply a part of the game in China are a punishable offence in the West. Another reason foreign social networks tend to be blocked in China: if someone makes a post on Weibo or Renren that the party doesn't like, they can simply have it removed without fanfare...along with the poster...

wangii 11y ago
My point is less about bribe or lobbying. It's about the mentality. For native Chinese company, the stake is so high that when facing overwhelmingly foreign opportunists they are willing to do anything to survive, faster reaction to users/customers, product adjustment to local users, more marketing spending, wage PR war with naive nationalism, you name it. Bribing and politics are really tip of the iceberg.