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Gotta love how some are using this as a marketing tool for Apple! For quite some time after Snowden we know well that Microsoft and Google at least believe the

Gotta love how some are using this as a marketing tool for Apple! For quite some time after Snowden we know well that Microsoft and Google at least believe the same as Apple - you can wax judgmental over strong or weak, loud or muted but fact of the matter is it is quite well known through their actions that both MS and Google are in opposition to government back doors and sweeping collection of information. But yeah all that be damned - let us see how quickly we can paint the other teams in gray. Let's also ignore that Google's CEO basically agreed with Apple's and if someone brings it up let's dilute it - not strong enough words and it's on Twitter!! Oh and while we are at it let's jump to the "you're the product" bandwagon as well especially when it isn't relevant to $subject at all. Clearly since Google and MS sell your data (whatever that means) they don't care about your privacy right? I guess Google forgot about violating your privacy if you are using ChromeOS - https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/security-overview https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/... ? Microsoft also forgot to violate the privacy expectations of their Irish customers I guess - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corporation_v._United_States_of_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corporation_v._Unite... ? And yes let's also imply that since Google and MS can read your email - getting that to the government is no big deal for them! It's the same thing right - government's just gotta sign up for Bing Ads and Google Ads?

draw_down 11y ago
"This is an Apple marketing ploy" is the absolute dumbest take on this issue. Please drop the tech horse-race bullshit for two minutes, sheesh
- blinkingled 11y ago
  Explain then to me how it is not. (Note that I did not say Apple is doing the marketing for themselves - media and bloggers are. FTR I think obviously Apple's is the right stance to have.) There is no basis to paint the other horse race participants as complicit - especially when Google's CEO publicly agreed with Apple's stance and they and MS both have history of opposing this sort of stuff.
- phasmantistes 11y ago
  That's actually not what blinkingled said. They said that some people here are using it as marketing for Apple, not that Tim Cook or others at Apple intended for it to be taken that way.

draw_down 11y ago

"This is an Apple marketing ploy" is the absolute dumbest take on this issue. Please drop the tech horse-race bullshit for two minutes, sheesh

blinkingled 11y ago
Explain then to me how it is not. (Note that I did not say Apple is doing the marketing for themselves - media and bloggers are. FTR I think obviously Apple's is the right stance to have.) There is no basis to paint the other horse race participants as complicit - especially when Google's CEO publicly agreed with Apple's stance and they and MS both have history of opposing this sort of stuff.
phasmantistes 11y ago
That's actually not what blinkingled said. They said that some people here are using it as marketing for Apple, not that Tim Cook or others at Apple intended for it to be taken that way.