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Google doesn't care. They're the "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, and you better not fear advertisers, because we just told them all about

Google doesn't care. They're the "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, and you better not fear advertisers, because we just told them all about you" crowd. Few years back Cornell University adopted Gmail for their staff and faculty under the condition that the company wouldn't data-mine the emails. Google did anyway. Now we use Outlook.

karlshea 11y ago
Google does care in some cases, a couple of years ago they started encrypting links between their datacenters because the NSA was snooping on internal Gmail traffic.
- CaptSpify 11y ago
  The difference is: Apple is putting their money where their mouth is. Google only fixed that after they got caught with their pants down. Apple is pro-actively trying to prevent it from happening.
Oletros 11y ago
> Google doesn't care. They're the "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, and you better not fear advertisers, because we just told them all about you" crowd. Still with that out of context quote?
- rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
  Did you even read my second paragraph? I have personal experience of their ignoring contractual privacy requirements for private gain.
  - Oletros 11y ago
    Then I suppose that you will provide proof of that. And then you could explain why Cornell uses Google Apps for the students.
magicalist 11y ago
> Few years back Cornell University adopted Gmail for their staff and faculty under the condition that the company wouldn't data-mine the emails. Google did anyway. Now we use Outlook. is this site[1] old then? Sounds like they have a very explicit privacy agreement[2], which isn't surprising...Cornell isn't a small school. (according to the wayback machine, the privacy section in [2] has been in place unchanged since February 2012) [1] http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/index.cfm http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/index.cfm [2] http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/faq.cfm#privacy http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/faq.cfm#privacy

karlshea 11y ago

Google does care in some cases, a couple of years ago they started encrypting links between their datacenters because the NSA was snooping on internal Gmail traffic.

CaptSpify 11y ago
The difference is: Apple is putting their money where their mouth is. Google only fixed that after they got caught with their pants down. Apple is pro-actively trying to prevent it from happening.

Oletros 11y ago

> Google doesn't care. They're the "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, and you better not fear advertisers, because we just told them all about you" crowd. Still with that out of context quote?

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
Did you even read my second paragraph? I have personal experience of their ignoring contractual privacy requirements for private gain.
- Oletros 11y ago
  Then I suppose that you will provide proof of that. And then you could explain why Cornell uses Google Apps for the students.

magicalist 11y ago

> Few years back Cornell University adopted Gmail for their staff and faculty under the condition that the company wouldn't data-mine the emails. Google did anyway. Now we use Outlook. is this site[1] old then? Sounds like they have a very explicit privacy agreement[2], which isn't surprising...Cornell isn't a small school. (according to the wayback machine, the privacy section in [2] has been in place unchanged since February 2012) [1] http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/index.cfm http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/index.cfm [2] http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/faq.cfm#privacy http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/cmail/faq.cfm#privacy