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These kind of responses have a chilling effect on debate and progress. > this is a very loaded and offensive statement So the fuck what? If you aren't allowed

These kind of responses have a chilling effect on debate and progress. > this is a very loaded and offensive statement So the fuck what? If you aren't allowed to consider anything offensive, we'd never discuss the difficult issues and make progress on them. > something that can happen to anyone for any number of reasons, and there are different kinds of being homeless Yeah blah blah blah he's not saying 'absolutely every homeless person is like this', he's suggesting that maybe the situation isn't as everyone assumes, which may be the case. But you've shut him down with some 'not every homeless' person bullshit. > It's not that people choose a lifestyle as such He didn't say choose did he? He said they prefer it - I presume he means prefer it to being institutionalised. You seem to suggest that he thinks they prefer it to being a millionaire, which of course they do not. Have you ever heard of the idea of being charitable in how you interpret other people's thoughts? > Being homeless is the suckiest thing you can probably reasonably imagine. Who are you arguing with here? Who disagrees with you? All he said is that some of these homeless people may prefer being on the street to being taken into the care of the state. You are destroying debate!

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Please don't create throwaway accounts on HN for the purpose of breaking the rules. There's no point here that you couldn't have made civilly. You reacted as if iuguy had tried to "shut down" discussion with an ideological dictum, but that's not at all what he did. Both iuguy and monkmartinez have commented out of deep personal experience. We're incredibly fortunate to have commenters posting from that level, most of all in so rage-baity a thread. Showing up with a bullhorn and blaring angry arguments is the last thing you should be doing on HN to begin with, but to insert that at the most meaningful point of human communication in this thread is really an abuse.
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dang 11y ago

Please don't create throwaway accounts on HN for the purpose of breaking the rules. There's no point here that you couldn't have made civilly. You reacted as if iuguy had tried to "shut down" discussion with an ideological dictum, but that's not at all what he did. Both iuguy and monkmartinez have commented out of deep personal experience. We're incredibly fortunate to have commenters posting from that level, most of all in so rage-baity a thread. Showing up with a bullhorn and blaring angry arguments is the last thing you should be doing on HN to begin with, but to insert that at the most meaningful point of human communication in this thread is really an abuse.

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