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Here's the 7th. Every Bitbucket Server admin has a double-digit long list of watched issues. And to go on, plenty dive into Atlassian, because of the ecosystem,

Here's the 7th. Every Bitbucket Server admin has a double-digit long list of watched issues. And to go on, plenty dive into Atlassian, because of the ecosystem, but the ecosystem is not at all symbiotic i.e. the products are built separately, implement same functionality, same UI concepts in totally different ways. I know the link is not about the onpremise version but given the onpremise solutions' quality, bitbucket.org is well.. In the same bucket.

pc86 11y ago
I desperately wanted to use Atlassian products across the entire workflow at my last job, but it's just too much. Like you said, separately-built products implementing identical functionality, sort-of-similar-but-still-different UIs, it's maddening.
- kannonboy 11y ago
  We do have a good sized "fusion" team focusing on product integration these days. Their mandate is to not only smooth out the integration process, but also to build some pretty kick-ass features on top of it. For example, between Bitbucket and JIRA these days you can not only view the code changes that relate to issues (and vice versa), but you can also transition issues through your workflow automatically based on the state of your commits, branches, & pull requests. We're also working on unifying the experience across the products. This started with the Atlassian Design Guidelines[1], but is continuing with product improvements like making the concept of a "project" consistent across Bitbucket Cloud, Bitbucket Server & JIRA (and making it easier to map them together). Integration and distributed systems are traditionally a tough problem in software, but we have some of our best engineers on it, so you can expect the cross-product experience to keep getting better! [1]: https://design.atlassian.com/ https://design.atlassian.com/
  - noone1234567890 11y ago
    Hi, I tried to get that automated workflow process with pull requests going between my team's bitbucket and jira last year, but it didn't seem possible without other tools. Can you point me at any documentation that can help me get that set up? Thanks!
    - kannonboy 11y ago
      It varies a little bit on whether you're using the Cloud or Server variants of JIRA & Bitbucket. The blow-by-blow Cloud integration guide is here: https://confluence.atlassian.com/jiracloud/getting-started-with-bitbucket-and-jira-cloud-744720795.html https://confluence.atlassian.com/jiracloud/getting-started-w... Feel free to drop me a line if you run into strife, my email is in my HN profile info.
nikolay 11y ago
I've maintained almost the full Atlassian suite for about 2 years. Yes, they are hard to install and maintain, each product is different, but once you have things set up and working, it's solid.
- whorleater 11y ago
  Doesn't "hard to maintain" contradict the "once you have it set up and running"?
  - nikolay 11y ago
    Sorry, by "maintain" I mean "upgrading". Should've clarified!
  - nikolay 11y ago
    But, in general, Atlassian software is pretty solid. I doubt you can assume that the stability of Bitbucket is subpar, because their software, in general, is hard to install and upgrade. In fact, I think the pressure from their web properties will make their growing cloud services much easier to maintain.

pc86 11y ago

I desperately wanted to use Atlassian products across the entire workflow at my last job, but it's just too much. Like you said, separately-built products implementing identical functionality, sort-of-similar-but-still-different UIs, it's maddening.

kannonboy 11y ago
We do have a good sized "fusion" team focusing on product integration these days. Their mandate is to not only smooth out the integration process, but also to build some pretty kick-ass features on top of it. For example, between Bitbucket and JIRA these days you can not only view the code changes that relate to issues (and vice versa), but you can also transition issues through your workflow automatically based on the state of your commits, branches, & pull requests. We're also working on unifying the experience across the products. This started with the Atlassian Design Guidelines[1], but is continuing with product improvements like making the concept of a "project" consistent across Bitbucket Cloud, Bitbucket Server & JIRA (and making it easier to map them together). Integration and distributed systems are traditionally a tough problem in software, but we have some of our best engineers on it, so you can expect the cross-product experience to keep getting better! [1]: https://design.atlassian.com/ https://design.atlassian.com/
- noone1234567890 11y ago
  Hi, I tried to get that automated workflow process with pull requests going between my team's bitbucket and jira last year, but it didn't seem possible without other tools. Can you point me at any documentation that can help me get that set up? Thanks!
  - kannonboy 11y ago
    It varies a little bit on whether you're using the Cloud or Server variants of JIRA & Bitbucket. The blow-by-blow Cloud integration guide is here: https://confluence.atlassian.com/jiracloud/getting-started-with-bitbucket-and-jira-cloud-744720795.html https://confluence.atlassian.com/jiracloud/getting-started-w... Feel free to drop me a line if you run into strife, my email is in my HN profile info.

nikolay 11y ago

I've maintained almost the full Atlassian suite for about 2 years. Yes, they are hard to install and maintain, each product is different, but once you have things set up and working, it's solid.

whorleater 11y ago
Doesn't "hard to maintain" contradict the "once you have it set up and running"?
- nikolay 11y ago
  Sorry, by "maintain" I mean "upgrading". Should've clarified!
- nikolay 11y ago
  But, in general, Atlassian software is pretty solid. I doubt you can assume that the stability of Bitbucket is subpar, because their software, in general, is hard to install and upgrade. In fact, I think the pressure from their web properties will make their growing cloud services much easier to maintain.