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I don't have that problem. I've lived in lots of cities and have never had that problem.

by m1sta_ 11y ago

shopkins 11y ago
So it doesn't exist, eh?
- m1sta_ 11y ago
  I'm just disputing the claim that "We [all] get accosted by mentally ill people, drunk people, high people, strung out people, dirty people. We smell piss on the street corners."
  - shopkins 11y ago
    It isn't meant to be taken literally. But to be literal, in my previous sentence, "We all have homeless problems in our cities" implicitly means "not just the people in San Francisco, California." I go on not to say "We all get accosted," but rather "We get accosted..." which due to the context of the previous sentence, simply exemplifies some of the people and situations that we (that is, people other than you or the author) come into contact with in the various cities we live in. You said yourself you've been lucky enough to live and work in particularly nice parts of town. That sort of makes your dispute moot, and I still ask, "so does that mean the issue doesn't exist?"
BinaryIdiot 11y ago
Perhaps you just never went into the "right" areas to experience it but I've seen it in many cities. Instead of basing your thoughts on personal anecdotes you should look towards statistics. For instance the New York City Department of Homeless Services estimated, in 2013, they had almost 50,000 homeless living in the city[1]. But this is just an example; you can look at a huge variety of statistics for many types of places to see how widespread the issues are. Overall there are over 500,000 homeless people in America on any given night[2]. There are real problems. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Situations_in_specific_U.S._cities_and_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_Sta... (shitty source I know; it references a dead article but this is mostly just an example). [2] http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/the-state-of-homelessness-in-america-2015 http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/the-state-of-ho... (though perhaps a little bit of a bias source; sorry didn't feel like reading too deeply into the government documents to find their data)
FanaHOVA 11y ago
You never lived in NYC, SF, LA, Philly, Rome, London or Paris then (And I'm just talking from personal experience, must be many more)
- m1sta_ 11y ago
  I have actually, but I've been lucky enough to live and work in particularly nice parts of the cities I live in. My comment was meant in reply specifically to "We [all] get accosted by mentally ill people, drunk people, high people, strung out people, dirty people. We smell piss on the street corners." I've only ever had that experience while visiting SF.

I don't have that problem. I've lived in lots of cities and have never had that problem.

by m1sta_ 11y ago

I don't have that problem. I've lived in lots of cities and have never had that problem.

shopkins 11y ago

So it doesn't exist, eh?

m1sta_ 11y ago
I'm just disputing the claim that "We [all] get accosted by mentally ill people, drunk people, high people, strung out people, dirty people. We smell piss on the street corners."
- shopkins 11y ago
  It isn't meant to be taken literally. But to be literal, in my previous sentence, "We all have homeless problems in our cities" implicitly means "not just the people in San Francisco, California." I go on not to say "We all get accosted," but rather "We get accosted..." which due to the context of the previous sentence, simply exemplifies some of the people and situations that we (that is, people other than you or the author) come into contact with in the various cities we live in. You said yourself you've been lucky enough to live and work in particularly nice parts of town. That sort of makes your dispute moot, and I still ask, "so does that mean the issue doesn't exist?"

BinaryIdiot 11y ago

Perhaps you just never went into the "right" areas to experience it but I've seen it in many cities. Instead of basing your thoughts on personal anecdotes you should look towards statistics. For instance the New York City Department of Homeless Services estimated, in 2013, they had almost 50,000 homeless living in the city[1]. But this is just an example; you can look at a huge variety of statistics for many types of places to see how widespread the issues are. Overall there are over 500,000 homeless people in America on any given night[2]. There are real problems. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Situations_in_specific_U.S._cities_and_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_Sta... (shitty source I know; it references a dead article but this is mostly just an example). [2] http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/the-state-of-homelessness-in-america-2015 http://www.endhomelessness.org/library/entry/the-state-of-ho... (though perhaps a little bit of a bias source; sorry didn't feel like reading too deeply into the government documents to find their data)

FanaHOVA 11y ago

You never lived in NYC, SF, LA, Philly, Rome, London or Paris then (And I'm just talking from personal experience, must be many more)

m1sta_ 11y ago
I have actually, but I've been lucky enough to live and work in particularly nice parts of the cities I live in. My comment was meant in reply specifically to "We [all] get accosted by mentally ill people, drunk people, high people, strung out people, dirty people. We smell piss on the street corners." I've only ever had that experience while visiting SF.