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On cannot eat too much starch. Try to eat only potatoes or rice prepared without any oil/butter for couple of weeks with perhaps few vegetables or fruits in add

by fpoling 11y ago

On cannot eat too much starch. Try to eat only potatoes or rice prepared without any oil/butter for couple of weeks with perhaps few vegetables or fruits in addition with any amount of salt or herbs for taste. You learn that it is impossible to overeat as normal appetite controlling signals kicks in and limit the consumed amount. One does not gain weight on such diet and likely even loose some. Similarly with sugar. Try to drink plain water with sugar (not tee/coffee or anything else that bring own taste). It is just impossible to drink too much of it. In fact for many people such plain water with sugar is a useful trick to limit appetite and loose weight. So it is not the amount of what is eaten but rather something in food or food composition that makes people overweight. As regarding exercising consider that doing high-intensity strength training for 15 minutes once per week is often enough to get into shape. So again, it is not the amount but rather the details of the exercise that are important.

suprfnk 11y ago
> So it is not the amount of what is eaten but rather something in food or food composition that makes people overweight. > As regarding exercising consider that doing high-intensity strength training for 15 minutes once per week is often enough to get into shape. So again, it is not the amount but rather the details of the exercise that are important. You make some wild claims here. Do you have anything to back that up, or are you just hypothesizing?
- fpoling 11y ago
  For the starch just search for effects of starch diet. For sugar water, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet. For high-intensity training, see www.bodybyscience.net - the blog there links quite a few medical studies about high intensity training. My personal experience or experience of my relatives confirms this.
obsurveyor 11y ago
> Try to drink plain water with sugar (not tee/coffee or anything else that bring own taste). It is just impossible to drink too much of it This is blatantly not true in the US, you can observe any number of people anywhere drinking full sugar sodas all day long.
- fpoling 11y ago
  One have to specifically drink plain water with table sugar or fructose - anything else reverses the effects, search the Shangri-La diet for details.
  - dpark 11y ago
    Sugar water tastes horrible. I'd have to be literally starving before I'd choose sugar water over plain water. This doesn't mean that it's impossible to overconsume. It just means that no one wants to consume this. I'd probably lose weight drinking sugar water because it would kill my appetite by inducing nausea. The same applies to your starch comment. Yeah, it's hard to overconsume plain rice if you eat it with no sauce and no salt. Not because it's better for you, but because it's unpleasant. It'd also be hard to overconsume pure lard if that were all you could eat. It'd get old immediately and you'd eat enough to survive and not much more because it's so unpleasant.
    - fpoling 11y ago
      With no negative impacts on health one can eat just rice or potatoes with salt or herbs as one please for months with no weight gain unless one is rather lean. That shows that there is food where body feedback loop works nicely preventing over-consumption without any conscious limits on the amount of food.
      - Mz 11y ago
        This is not true. If you only eat potatoes, you will wind up deficient in B vitamins. It doesn't take much to make potatoes a good basis for a diet. This is why the Irish Potato Famine was a big deal: Large families with small farms were mostly growing potatoes to keep everyone fed. But, no, you cannot live on potatoes alone with just salt or herbs without ending up deficient.
      - dpark 11y ago
        "No negative impacts on health" is a bold claim. If you eat nothing but rice (with salt[1] and herbs) for months, you'll end up with a number of vitamin deficiencies. You'll also end up critically deficient in certain amino acids eventually, because rice does not provide a complete protein profile. Weight is not the only factor in overall health. I'll point out that Atkins makes similar claims for a fat-heavy diet. In essence, they claim that if you cut carbs entirely, you can eat as much as you want. In reality, people on Atkins tend to just eat less because the diet gets so monotonous. [1] I misread initially and thought you said no salt. Sorry about the confusion there.

by fpoling 11y ago

suprfnk 11y ago

> So it is not the amount of what is eaten but rather something in food or food composition that makes people overweight. > As regarding exercising consider that doing high-intensity strength training for 15 minutes once per week is often enough to get into shape. So again, it is not the amount but rather the details of the exercise that are important. You make some wild claims here. Do you have anything to back that up, or are you just hypothesizing?

fpoling 11y ago
For the starch just search for effects of starch diet. For sugar water, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet. For high-intensity training, see www.bodybyscience.net - the blog there links quite a few medical studies about high intensity training. My personal experience or experience of my relatives confirms this.

obsurveyor 11y ago

> Try to drink plain water with sugar (not tee/coffee or anything else that bring own taste). It is just impossible to drink too much of it This is blatantly not true in the US, you can observe any number of people anywhere drinking full sugar sodas all day long.

fpoling 11y ago
One have to specifically drink plain water with table sugar or fructose - anything else reverses the effects, search the Shangri-La diet for details.
- dpark 11y ago
  Sugar water tastes horrible. I'd have to be literally starving before I'd choose sugar water over plain water. This doesn't mean that it's impossible to overconsume. It just means that no one wants to consume this. I'd probably lose weight drinking sugar water because it would kill my appetite by inducing nausea. The same applies to your starch comment. Yeah, it's hard to overconsume plain rice if you eat it with no sauce and no salt. Not because it's better for you, but because it's unpleasant. It'd also be hard to overconsume pure lard if that were all you could eat. It'd get old immediately and you'd eat enough to survive and not much more because it's so unpleasant.
  - fpoling 11y ago
    With no negative impacts on health one can eat just rice or potatoes with salt or herbs as one please for months with no weight gain unless one is rather lean. That shows that there is food where body feedback loop works nicely preventing over-consumption without any conscious limits on the amount of food.
    - Mz 11y ago
      This is not true. If you only eat potatoes, you will wind up deficient in B vitamins. It doesn't take much to make potatoes a good basis for a diet. This is why the Irish Potato Famine was a big deal: Large families with small farms were mostly growing potatoes to keep everyone fed. But, no, you cannot live on potatoes alone with just salt or herbs without ending up deficient.
    - dpark 11y ago
      "No negative impacts on health" is a bold claim. If you eat nothing but rice (with salt[1] and herbs) for months, you'll end up with a number of vitamin deficiencies. You'll also end up critically deficient in certain amino acids eventually, because rice does not provide a complete protein profile. Weight is not the only factor in overall health. I'll point out that Atkins makes similar claims for a fat-heavy diet. In essence, they claim that if you cut carbs entirely, you can eat as much as you want. In reality, people on Atkins tend to just eat less because the diet gets so monotonous. [1] I misread initially and thought you said no salt. Sorry about the confusion there.