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Wouldn't he be directed to attempt a CAT IIIA (or B) ILS autolanding? Edit: see sample video of the procedure here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIaMALJjOEc

by JorgeGT 11y ago

Wouldn't he be directed to attempt a CAT IIIA (or B) ILS autolanding? Edit: see sample video of the procedure here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIaMALJjOEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIaMALJjOEc Edit II: see the same guy "remotely" guiding a random person to land using the autoland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7WMQUDGDD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7WMQUDGDD4

will_asouka 11y ago
Autoland would definitely be preferable, a CAT III ILS would be ideal although you can still autoland off a CAT I beam. CAT IIIs tend to be limited to big airports due to cost and restrictions on the surrounding terrain and obstacles. With autoland though, it's not just a simple button push. The aircraft needs to be descended around any terrain, navigated through any weather, and put into the landing configuration. If it'll be landing somewhere other than the planned destination, there's also a fair amount of reprogramming of the FMS.
- JorgeGT 11y ago
  > there's also a fair amount of reprogramming of the FMS That was something I was missing. Probably complicated when you are scared to death. But still a CAT I glideslope descent/touchdown would be preferably to landing with the PAPI I think. (Funny detail, papi means daddy in Spanish!)
  - neppo 11y ago
    same for german, PAPI means daddy
UnoriginalGuy 11y ago
The video is fun but he makes it far more complicated than it really needed to be. Additionally the only useful piece of advice is the headset/microphone/etc, after that ATC will tell the surrogate EXACTLY what they need to do, down to the switch and position. This video would be better split into two: One where they have no ATC contact, and another where they do. But I strongly agree, if you have ATC contact they're going to do an ILS landing, even if that requires sending you to a bigger airport that has ILS and better ground support.
- chmars 11y ago
  You can only hope that ATC will find someone who can tell you exactly what do you … air traffic controllers are usually not pilots, i.e., they cannot help you with flying an aircraft …
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    I'm 99.99% sure that's what most of the posters in this thread mean when they say ATC. "Ground" might be clearer but it is pretty obvious either way.
  - JorgeGT 11y ago
    Surely there will be a 737 pilot in the ATC frequency. Anywhere!

by JorgeGT 11y ago

will_asouka 11y ago

Autoland would definitely be preferable, a CAT III ILS would be ideal although you can still autoland off a CAT I beam. CAT IIIs tend to be limited to big airports due to cost and restrictions on the surrounding terrain and obstacles. With autoland though, it's not just a simple button push. The aircraft needs to be descended around any terrain, navigated through any weather, and put into the landing configuration. If it'll be landing somewhere other than the planned destination, there's also a fair amount of reprogramming of the FMS.

JorgeGT 11y ago
> there's also a fair amount of reprogramming of the FMS That was something I was missing. Probably complicated when you are scared to death. But still a CAT I glideslope descent/touchdown would be preferably to landing with the PAPI I think. (Funny detail, papi means daddy in Spanish!)
- neppo 11y ago
  same for german, PAPI means daddy

UnoriginalGuy 11y ago

The video is fun but he makes it far more complicated than it really needed to be. Additionally the only useful piece of advice is the headset/microphone/etc, after that ATC will tell the surrogate EXACTLY what they need to do, down to the switch and position. This video would be better split into two: One where they have no ATC contact, and another where they do. But I strongly agree, if you have ATC contact they're going to do an ILS landing, even if that requires sending you to a bigger airport that has ILS and better ground support.

chmars 11y ago
You can only hope that ATC will find someone who can tell you exactly what do you … air traffic controllers are usually not pilots, i.e., they cannot help you with flying an aircraft …
- Someone1234 11y ago
  I'm 99.99% sure that's what most of the posters in this thread mean when they say ATC. "Ground" might be clearer but it is pretty obvious either way.
- JorgeGT 11y ago
  Surely there will be a 737 pilot in the ATC frequency. Anywhere!