> "I'm talking about the messy process of building and installing it." If you're using Python for scientific computing, you can use the Anaconda distribution o

> "I'm talking about the messy process of building and installing it." If you're using Python for scientific computing, you can use the Anaconda distribution of Python, it makes it painless to work with those packages. https://www.continuum.io https://www.continuum.io > "Also it seems that "inside Scipy' it is a different world, and that to really "talk to the outside world" there seems to be a data-translation step needed." Python has excellent ORMs, I'm not sure what you're getting at.