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This might be a good time to point out that finding the weapon is an idiotic way to conduct security. What you want to find is the dangerous person There are p
by DanielBMarkham 11y ago
This might be a good time to point out that finding the weapon is an idiotic way to conduct security. What you want to find is the dangerous person
There are probably dozens if not hundreds of guns every day flying around the skies. Yet there is no danger. In fact, you could fill a plane with a fully armed Marine platoon, and there would be no increased danger.
The TSA collecting oddball trinkets and weapons and then reporting about them has always struck me as one of the weirder aspects of the war on terror. Since it's obvious that armed terrorists aren't being arrested at checkpoints, and since it's also obvious that the population has been traveling with these weapons for as long as there has been air travel, what, exactly are we proving? That people forget and leave scissors and knives in their carry-ons?
We are in the same spot here as we were with electronics just ten years ago. Everybody brought electronics on planes. Tons of people forgot to turn them off. We were given dire warnings about why turning them off was necessary. Yet planes kept taking off, flying, and landing safely. It wasn't that we were unsure whether or not these things were dangerous. Hell, we were conducting live experiments many times an hour that proved they were not.
Same goes for some business guy who left his pistol in his computer case. We already know these guys are not security risks. We've been testing it with real, live, people and weapons for many decades now.
TSA needs to be abolished. Immediately. Yes, we need flight security, but there are many drastically better ways of providing it.
ADD: Of the many things that concern me about the TSA is what we're seeing in this article. In order to continue justifying its existence, it will need more and more to make us afraid of our fellow travelers. This is the terrible consequence of 9-11: we're turning the Defense Industrial base against the very population it is supposed to be protecting. Very, very bad stuff.
- tajen 11y ago"There are many drastically better ways of providing it" - The beginning was interesting, please develop and throw some ideas. Thank you.
- ZanyProgrammer 11y agoSo you're in favor then of psychological profiling and no fly lists? Because those certainly block people who the government "thinks" are dangerous, regardless of the actual danger posed by the items on their person.
- douche 11y agoIt works very well for the Israelis...
- ZanyProgrammer 11y agoOnly if you're Jewish.
- simoncion 11y ago> So you're in favor then of psychological profiling... Reasonable people are in favor of police and intelligence work that identifies people with both the genuine motive and actual means to seriously endanger the lives and/or property of others and provides reasonable assurance that those people will fail to harm others. This sort of policing is nothing new and has worked spectacularly well for many, many, many decades. So, if that's what you mean by "psychological profiling", then yes. If -however- you're referring to TSA's SPOT teams and similar low-to-no-effort quackery, then no.
- ZanyProgrammer 11y agoYou're essentially banning people from flying for possible crimes they might commit.
- simoncion 11y ago> You're essentially banning people from flying for possible crimes they might commit. They will be banned from flying because they will be in jail awaiting trial for conspiracy to commit murder, or similar such charges. If someone actually, legitimately poses a serious "danger to aviation", they should be charged, jailed, and stand trial. Do you disagree?