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I got pretty excited to read about this unified endeavor, and hungrily clicked the CTA to Get 5.0 Alpha. > Don't see a button? You may have to disable your ad

I got pretty excited to read about this unified endeavor, and hungrily clicked the CTA to Get 5.0 Alpha. > Don't see a button? You may have to disable your ad blocker. What a shitty experience. You're pitching a product that you're clearly intending to sell commercially (which is both fine and dandy), and your first interaction of this brave new World Stack is to tell me I'm browsing wrong! And that's immediately after I click the previous "Get 5.0 Alpha" Call To Action (which was a button that appeared just fine, mind you) and I'm faced with the bitter realization that it's not Get, it's Get In Our CRM. This kind of thing rubs me the wrong way, hard. I live in the B2B world, I totally get the pitch and the signup, but don't mislead me on the call to action, and don't make me distrust your intentions (or web development skills, for that matter) by telling me I need to open my privacy and performance preserving ad blocking gate and let you come over to my yard just to fill out a damn signup form on your fancy clipboard. It's inauthentic, and I don't think I'm the only one who feels that way.

msellout 11y ago
I don't care about the authenticity/ickiness/etc. that just strikes me as a terrible interface decision, one that would make me worry they've made other terrible interface decisions where it matters -- in the product itself. The idea of forcing the user to change a browser setting to get work done is a very "enterprisey" mindset. An old way of thinking that it's the user's fault if they can't use the software.
- yeukhon 11y ago
  Kibana 4 interface looks nice first, but actually very confusing, even more confusing than the old interface.
  - kkirsche 11y ago
    Maybe you'll be happy 5 is another new interface.
    - dozzie 11y ago
      And another change of underlying stack? To what this time? Kibana 2 was PHP, then (K3) it was static HTML + user-side JavaScript, and Kibana 4 runs on Node.js.
anonfunction 11y ago
Not to mention when you fill it out it says: > Success! We've got your information and will send you a note when 5.0 Alpha is available. With no links to documentation or github or anything. Having me sign up and get told I'll be emailed at some unspecified time when it's available was very disappointing.
tvmalsv 11y ago
Also annoying is that in order to watch a video overview of many of their products (ie. Elasticsearch 2.0, Beats, Watcher, Shield, ES-Hadoop) I have to register (name, email, use case). Sorry, I'm not going to register just to watch the videos.

msellout 11y ago

I don't care about the authenticity/ickiness/etc. that just strikes me as a terrible interface decision, one that would make me worry they've made other terrible interface decisions where it matters -- in the product itself. The idea of forcing the user to change a browser setting to get work done is a very "enterprisey" mindset. An old way of thinking that it's the user's fault if they can't use the software.

yeukhon 11y ago
Kibana 4 interface looks nice first, but actually very confusing, even more confusing than the old interface.
- kkirsche 11y ago
  Maybe you'll be happy 5 is another new interface.
  - dozzie 11y ago
    And another change of underlying stack? To what this time? Kibana 2 was PHP, then (K3) it was static HTML + user-side JavaScript, and Kibana 4 runs on Node.js.

anonfunction 11y ago

Not to mention when you fill it out it says: > Success! We've got your information and will send you a note when 5.0 Alpha is available. With no links to documentation or github or anything. Having me sign up and get told I'll be emailed at some unspecified time when it's available was very disappointing.

tvmalsv 11y ago

Also annoying is that in order to watch a video overview of many of their products (ie. Elasticsearch 2.0, Beats, Watcher, Shield, ES-Hadoop) I have to register (name, email, use case). Sorry, I'm not going to register just to watch the videos.