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Beware before Ordering Ringing Bells Smart 101 or Freedom 251 Smart Phone

35 points by dragonsh 11y ago

rspeer 11y ago
Why does this site want to send me push notifications? More specifically, why is it showing me a fake, vibrating, AdBlock-evading, interface element "powered by LetReach" asking to send me push notifications?
- dragonsh 11y ago
  Sorry about the ad, I use ad-blocker in firefox so didn't notice it, otherwise won't have included this link.
  - desipenguin 11y ago
    I too am using ABP with firefox, yet I can see the "LetsReach" annoying notifications :( Which ad-blocker are you using ?
    - dragonsh 11y ago
      I have unchecked allow some non-intrusive advertisement. Also I selectively allow javascript and only from the same domain so this website only loads text. Probably if I enable JS it might come as well.
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DiabloD3 11y ago
I thought we already knew this wasn't on the up and up. Even the most minimal SoC, powerful enough to run Android (I think I read it was shipping with Android) is at least $30, a single core wtf-wonder.
- akiselev 11y ago
  Where are you getting your $30 price point? Digikey single unit pricing? At a Shenzhen electronic parts market I have seen dual cores from Mediatek and Allwinner for $10-15/unit in low volume and this was several years ago. If you have leverage during pricing negotiations you can get extremely low pricing for chips that is an order of magnitude cheaper than any online list price you can find. That said, I'm skeptical that a $5 phone can be manufactured profitably with a quad core chip without a lot of subsidies either from the manufacturer or the gov't.
  - DiabloD3 11y ago
    I actually haven't looked at pricing for awhile. Yeah, I should be able to get quad core absolutely garbage SoCs for $5-10 now in sufficient volume. Still, the LTE modem assembly is going to be a lot more than that. If they had said maybe a $25 phone? And they were making several million of them? I'd believe it.
- rasz_pl 11y ago
  no, chinese 4 core SoCs are $4 for soc+pmic combo
dragonsh 11y ago
Update: Although $4 phone is a scam, I cannot fathom how come Indian defense minister is endorsing it. I hope this will not be charged to poor Indian tax payers,like Akash which was subsidized and subsequently failed. Moreover company is a fraud, how can anyone from government associate with it. It is using name of Modi and Make in India. Even the most basic computer without any WiFi or radio like Raspberry Pi Zero cost $5, so this is not just improbable, but impossible unless some billionaire wants to do a social service. http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report-the-freedom-251-fiasco-what-the-hell-is-going-on-2178927 http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report-the-freedom-251-fiasc...
- rasz_pl 11y ago
  corruption, its India

35 points by dragonsh 11y ago

Why does this site want to send me push notifications? More specifically, why is it showing me a fake, vibrating, AdBlock-evading, interface element "powered by LetReach" asking to send me push notifications?

dragonsh 11y ago
Sorry about the ad, I use ad-blocker in firefox so didn't notice it, otherwise won't have included this link.
- desipenguin 11y ago
  I too am using ABP with firefox, yet I can see the "LetsReach" annoying notifications :( Which ad-blocker are you using ?
  - dragonsh 11y ago
    I have unchecked allow some non-intrusive advertisement. Also I selectively allow javascript and only from the same domain so this website only loads text. Probably if I enable JS it might come as well.

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DiabloD3 11y ago

I thought we already knew this wasn't on the up and up. Even the most minimal SoC, powerful enough to run Android (I think I read it was shipping with Android) is at least $30, a single core wtf-wonder.

akiselev 11y ago
Where are you getting your $30 price point? Digikey single unit pricing? At a Shenzhen electronic parts market I have seen dual cores from Mediatek and Allwinner for $10-15/unit in low volume and this was several years ago. If you have leverage during pricing negotiations you can get extremely low pricing for chips that is an order of magnitude cheaper than any online list price you can find. That said, I'm skeptical that a $5 phone can be manufactured profitably with a quad core chip without a lot of subsidies either from the manufacturer or the gov't.
- DiabloD3 11y ago
  I actually haven't looked at pricing for awhile. Yeah, I should be able to get quad core absolutely garbage SoCs for $5-10 now in sufficient volume. Still, the LTE modem assembly is going to be a lot more than that. If they had said maybe a $25 phone? And they were making several million of them? I'd believe it.
rasz_pl 11y ago
no, chinese 4 core SoCs are $4 for soc+pmic combo

dragonsh 11y ago

Update: Although $4 phone is a scam, I cannot fathom how come Indian defense minister is endorsing it. I hope this will not be charged to poor Indian tax payers,like Akash which was subsidized and subsequently failed. Moreover company is a fraud, how can anyone from government associate with it. It is using name of Modi and Make in India. Even the most basic computer without any WiFi or radio like Raspberry Pi Zero cost $5, so this is not just improbable, but impossible unless some billionaire wants to do a social service. http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report-the-freedom-251-fiasco-what-the-hell-is-going-on-2178927 http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report-the-freedom-251-fiasc...

rasz_pl 11y ago
corruption, its India