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Funny, I've been running Debian since 2007. I mainly got hooked on their 'testing' branch since it is just "always up to date". But I always get people looking

by esaym 11y ago

Funny, I've been running Debian since 2007. I mainly got hooked on their 'testing' branch since it is just "always up to date". But I always get people looking over my shoulder and asking "what the heck is 'iceweasel'. To which I explain the whole issue of Debian was distributing a patched version of Firefox with their OS back in ~2007 era and Mozilla, for trademark reasons, said you can't modify the browser and still distribute it with the official logos and name. Which lead to Iceweasel... but then a few years later Mozilla changed the license terms so now I guess here we are....

CaptSpify 11y ago
A few years ago some extensions wouldn't work with iceweasel. I forget which ones, and why, but it basically boiled down to: "this extension is meant for firefox". I wish I could remember which ones those were to see if it really was just a naming issue.
currysausage 11y ago
> I mainly got hooked on their 'testing' branch since it is just "always up to date". Note that testing doesn't get the same level of security support as stable: "Compared to stable and unstable, next-stable testing has the worst security update speed. Don't prefer testing if security is a concern." [1]; more details: [2], [3], [4]. [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting#Considerations https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting#Considerations [2] https://wiki.debian.org/Status/Testing https://wiki.debian.org/Status/Testing [3] https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing [4] http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/
- chei0aiV 11y ago
  You can slightly speed it up by using apt pinning to get security updates from Debian unstable (but other packages from testing) when available. https://bugs.debian.org/725934 https://bugs.debian.org/725934 To speed it up even more you would need to follow the unstable/testing pages on the security tracker and file bugs to get maintainers to do fixes and do NMUs when maintainers are on vacation or missing. https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/unstable https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/u... https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/testing https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/t...

by esaym 11y ago

CaptSpify 11y ago

A few years ago some extensions wouldn't work with iceweasel. I forget which ones, and why, but it basically boiled down to: "this extension is meant for firefox". I wish I could remember which ones those were to see if it really was just a naming issue.

currysausage 11y ago

> I mainly got hooked on their 'testing' branch since it is just "always up to date". Note that testing doesn't get the same level of security support as stable: "Compared to stable and unstable, next-stable testing has the worst security update speed. Don't prefer testing if security is a concern." [1]; more details: [2], [3], [4]. [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting#Considerations https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting#Considerations [2] https://wiki.debian.org/Status/Testing https://wiki.debian.org/Status/Testing [3] https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing [4] http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/

chei0aiV 11y ago
You can slightly speed it up by using apt pinning to get security updates from Debian unstable (but other packages from testing) when available. https://bugs.debian.org/725934 https://bugs.debian.org/725934 To speed it up even more you would need to follow the unstable/testing pages on the security tracker and file bugs to get maintainers to do fixes and do NMUs when maintainers are on vacation or missing. https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/unstable https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/u... https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/testing https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/t...