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What are you on about... >For the record, I'm a very good (or by most metrics, excellent) French speller, but I'm also a parent and am heartbroken to see my ki

by Mikushi 11y ago

What are you on about... >For the record, I'm a very good (or by most metrics, excellent) French speller, but I'm also a parent and am heartbroken to see my kids spend the best part of their young lives learning this thing that has absolutely no extrinsic or intrinsic value whatsoever How can you say this seriously. Not only orthographe is extremely important to the health of the language itself but also to its health abroad. How can you teach the language to someone if while reading two texts you encounter about 10 different ways of spelling the same word. And contrary to you I speak as a fairly horrible French speller (mostly due to my own lack of attention in class and the fact that English is my first language for over a decade now). > Many social problems in French society -- including, I really think so, recent outbursts of "terrorism" -- have at least some roots in the actual terror and tragedy of orthographe. They have, and I really think so, roots in people like you pointing the fingers anywhere but where the problems are. Seriously, orthographe as a factor in terrorism, jesus fucking christ what the fuck.

bambax 11y ago
I'm not sure what the "health" of a language is; the power/influence of a language, however, is a direct factor of the power/influence of its main speakers, and doesn't have anything to do with spelling. English is the world language because of the US economy; when French was the language of reference, orthographe hadn't happened yet. Regarding terrorism: current French "terrorists" are misfits; and I use quotes not because their acts aren't despicable or horrible, but because their main purpose isn't to terrorise (in order to obtain something by way of fear). It's to exact vengeance (as you'll learn if you watch their videos, they say as much). They are not in pursuit of any kind of political gain; they want to inflict pain and nothing else. Orthographe, in my (controversial) view, is not a cause and probably not even a factor, but really a symptom of how French society works; and the way it works is, it upsets everyone except the very elite.

by Mikushi 11y ago

bambax 11y ago

I'm not sure what the "health" of a language is; the power/influence of a language, however, is a direct factor of the power/influence of its main speakers, and doesn't have anything to do with spelling. English is the world language because of the US economy; when French was the language of reference, orthographe hadn't happened yet. Regarding terrorism: current French "terrorists" are misfits; and I use quotes not because their acts aren't despicable or horrible, but because their main purpose isn't to terrorise (in order to obtain something by way of fear). It's to exact vengeance (as you'll learn if you watch their videos, they say as much). They are not in pursuit of any kind of political gain; they want to inflict pain and nothing else. Orthographe, in my (controversial) view, is not a cause and probably not even a factor, but really a symptom of how French society works; and the way it works is, it upsets everyone except the very elite.