4 ms·

I want you to re-read the first paragraph you wrote. That's exactly why I don't use Linux. I don't mean this to be a condescending comment, but really, the cont

I want you to re-read the first paragraph you wrote. That's exactly why I don't use Linux. I don't mean this to be a condescending comment, but really, the contents of your entire first paragraph are just things that I don't want to deal with. It's all just bullshit, and I don't have time to deal with bullshit like that. I really just don't want to even think about stuff like that. Not even a tiny bit, not even for a second.

slgeorge 11y ago
> It's all just bullshit, and I don't have time to deal with bullshit like that It's bullshit to you, but it doesn't make Linux bullshit - others prioritise different aspects. You care about HiDPI - perhaps you are a designer, so it's important. But, you're not everyone. For example, I have no need for HiDPI and I personally have much more focus on the power and control Linux gives me. I wouldn't want HiDPI if I had to give up a proper Window Manager. Your choice is fair enough, but it's no more than a personal preference.
- sjwright 11y ago
  He might not "be everyone" but his priorities are relevant to more people than your priorities by a factor of perhaps 100:1 or more. I haven't met a single person that didn't immediately appreciate the benefits of HiDPI when they saw it.
  - tingol 11y ago
    Well you sure convinced me with your accurate statistics. You talk of benefits as if higher dpi cures cancer, it looks better and that's it. I really don't know what the big deal is, I have a HiDPI screen, works fine under linux as most of my work is done in terminals all I've had to "configure" was turning off hinting for my emulators and that was that. But they are waay more important things I would like from my machine so there's no need to be condescending just because you and your friends were impressed by the high res screens.
    - sjwright 11y ago
      You seriously think more than 1% of computer users care about some esoteric configuration flexibility of a Linux window manager? How insular is your view of the world? Oh, and higher DPI cures cancer.
    - askafriend 11y ago
      I honestly don't care what "hinting for my emulators" means or why it matters that it's off. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I just want to get work done in a sane way. Linux is insane to any normal human being.
      - mbrock 11y ago
        Since when is this a forum for normal human beings?
        sjwright 11y ago
        It's certainly not a forum for one single particular type of computer enthusiast.
        mbrock 11y ago
        Right... which makes it kind of ridiculous to claim that any mention of configuring Linux to work with HiDPI is "bullshit." Because there are a lot of Linux enthusiasts here.
        sjwright 11y ago
        Far be it for me to defend somebody else's words, but I happen to entirely agree with askafriend when he described the manual tinkering required to get HiDPI functioning well as "things that I don't want to deal with. It's all just bullshit, and I don't have time to deal with bullshit like that. I really just don't want to even think about stuff like that. Not even a tiny bit, not even for a second." There are indeed a lot of Linux enthusiasts here, myself included, but being a Linux enthusiast doesn't mean we all want to act as systems integrator all the time.
  - jhildings 11y ago
    Well if the tradeoff is to use a lesser OS or desktop environment compared to for example Fluxbox then it could be worth it ?
ekianjo 11y ago
Wow the word bullshit get thrown very easily by people who use OSX and dont want other people to disagree.
mbrock 11y ago
Sure, that's fine with me, you can choose to spend your time however you want. Someone said proper HiDPI support is not available on Linux. So I replied that I have used HiDPI on Linux for a long time without major issues. That's not an advocacy argument for anyone to choose Linux. So I might ask you to re-read my paragraph—unless you're so allergic to Linux "bullshit" that mere anecdotes cause you pain, in which case I'm sorry. (That's meant to be just slightly condescending...)

slgeorge 11y ago

> It's all just bullshit, and I don't have time to deal with bullshit like that It's bullshit to you, but it doesn't make Linux bullshit - others prioritise different aspects. You care about HiDPI - perhaps you are a designer, so it's important. But, you're not everyone. For example, I have no need for HiDPI and I personally have much more focus on the power and control Linux gives me. I wouldn't want HiDPI if I had to give up a proper Window Manager. Your choice is fair enough, but it's no more than a personal preference.

sjwright 11y ago
He might not "be everyone" but his priorities are relevant to more people than your priorities by a factor of perhaps 100:1 or more. I haven't met a single person that didn't immediately appreciate the benefits of HiDPI when they saw it.
- tingol 11y ago
  Well you sure convinced me with your accurate statistics. You talk of benefits as if higher dpi cures cancer, it looks better and that's it. I really don't know what the big deal is, I have a HiDPI screen, works fine under linux as most of my work is done in terminals all I've had to "configure" was turning off hinting for my emulators and that was that. But they are waay more important things I would like from my machine so there's no need to be condescending just because you and your friends were impressed by the high res screens.
  - sjwright 11y ago
    You seriously think more than 1% of computer users care about some esoteric configuration flexibility of a Linux window manager? How insular is your view of the world? Oh, and higher DPI cures cancer.
  - askafriend 11y ago
    I honestly don't care what "hinting for my emulators" means or why it matters that it's off. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I just want to get work done in a sane way. Linux is insane to any normal human being.
    - mbrock 11y ago
      Since when is this a forum for normal human beings?
      - sjwright 11y ago
        It's certainly not a forum for one single particular type of computer enthusiast.
        mbrock 11y ago
        Right... which makes it kind of ridiculous to claim that any mention of configuring Linux to work with HiDPI is "bullshit." Because there are a lot of Linux enthusiasts here.
        sjwright 11y ago
        Far be it for me to defend somebody else's words, but I happen to entirely agree with askafriend when he described the manual tinkering required to get HiDPI functioning well as "things that I don't want to deal with. It's all just bullshit, and I don't have time to deal with bullshit like that. I really just don't want to even think about stuff like that. Not even a tiny bit, not even for a second." There are indeed a lot of Linux enthusiasts here, myself included, but being a Linux enthusiast doesn't mean we all want to act as systems integrator all the time.
- jhildings 11y ago
  Well if the tradeoff is to use a lesser OS or desktop environment compared to for example Fluxbox then it could be worth it ?

ekianjo 11y ago

Wow the word bullshit get thrown very easily by people who use OSX and dont want other people to disagree.

mbrock 11y ago

Sure, that's fine with me, you can choose to spend your time however you want. Someone said proper HiDPI support is not available on Linux. So I replied that I have used HiDPI on Linux for a long time without major issues. That's not an advocacy argument for anyone to choose Linux. So I might ask you to re-read my paragraph—unless you're so allergic to Linux "bullshit" that mere anecdotes cause you pain, in which case I'm sorry. (That's meant to be just slightly condescending...)